3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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deviantek wrote:
What's the best way to incorporate skeletons in to the build with only a 5-link weapon and chest piece? Tried getting the staff to a 6-L, but went broke doing so.


I have used this setup since 3.9 metamorph league, and this is what I do if I really need/want to use the skellies: use a Femurs (better) or a Queen's 6 socketed 5-link weapon. Place the vaal summon skeletons in the unlinked socket. OR, depending on your progression place the skellies together with the summon golem skill gem. You can save a couple of sockets if you don't use a cyclone setup to desecrate+offering, and just manually cast desecrate+offering. You can also drop convocation to save a socket like I do.

So, what I use in a 4L boot/glove are: dread banner+generosity, spirit offering+desecrate

In another 4L boot/gloves are: summon stone golem, minion life, minion damage, withering step. You can replace minion life with the vaal skeletons. You can also replace the minion damage with feeding frenzy if you want the skellies to zoom towards their targets. Instead of withering step (preferred setup), you can use flame dash in certain maps. (This is my preferred setup even if I have a 6L or 5L weapon)

The Baron helm must have your animate guardian (give him proper gear once the skill gem is around level 20) and raise spectre (I start with slave drivers then later change to 2 carnage chiefs + 1 host chieftain), blood magic and either meat shield or minion life (my preference). Naturally, you must try to get your total strength to 1000 asap. (use passive skills, initially use 2 efficient training jewels and 2 brawn, rings, belt, amulet)

Your Geofri armour would have all your auras, plus molten shell. The auras I normally start with are purity of elements (for resist capping) and discipline and the dread banner from the 4L. Later on I will be dropping purity of elements for aspect of avian and flesh and stone for blood stance.

Also, as a somewhat casual player, who has played for 48+ hours so far in this 3.12 heist league, you can be done with Act 10 Oriath by level 62-64 by just zooming towards the actual quest objective and run past all the mobs while your zombies do all the work. You can achieve level 82-84 and 12 challenges so you can get the 3 free helm MTX skins within 48 hours of playtime. You can get most of your end game gear Femurs, Geofri, Baron, Shaper's, Alberon, 2 strength+resist rings, resist+strength belt, strength+death attunement anoited amulet, without ever finding your first exalted orb within that 48 hours. Just be sure to sell on the poe trade site anything you don't need towards your necro zombie build. Also, do those Trials of Ascendancy as you encounter them, get them done as you progress, go to the Aspirant's Plaza and do the Labyrinths as soon as able, so you can pick up those 8 ascendancy skill points as fast as possible.

Once you do have enough currency/exalted orbs, add those empower 3 or 4, enlighten 3 or 4 support gems to the links, add thread of hope, and other minion damage related jewels, upgrade your weapon to a minion bow and quiver setup (spend at least 5-7 exa)....keep investing in your build's survivability and damage...use that currency!

It will be more painful to die and lose 10% experience once you are over level 92...which is probably the limit of the Femurs basic/starter weapon build.


Anyway, the big question for me is how much to time to spend on the actual heists (which is a lot more fun for me but contributes a lot less towards completing the next 12+ challenge rewards) versus the regular Atlas grinding/mapping. I might even just stop playing because I have gotten the 3 free helms I wanted for this league. ...but that's just me...

Good luck.

Last edited by 10011001#5138 on Oct 1, 2020, 10:34:23 PM
I always find my minions dying on harder bosses (eg. sirus), and really not sure how to improve their survivability besides a quality 20 zombie gem which im currently working towards.
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Dark_Laser wrote:
I always find my minions dying on harder bosses (eg. sirus), and really not sure how to improve their survivability besides a quality 20 zombie gem which im currently working towards.

I recommend picking up some more minion life leech and running flesh offering early on. I had a similar issue with last league and the switch to flesh offering changed it around.
PSA:
If you go melee you may use synth bases with +1 support gems to craft weapon for extra ~12% DPS. They are like 2c.
If you want to use bow base will be much more expensive. 20ex+.
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Jesus_Nahan wrote:
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Dark_Laser wrote:
I always find my minions dying on harder bosses (eg. sirus), and really not sure how to improve their survivability besides a quality 20 zombie gem which im currently working towards.

I recommend picking up some more minion life leech and running flesh offering early on. I had a similar issue with last league and the switch to flesh offering changed it around.


Yeah I figured grabbing some more leech would also help a little, curious as to how flesh offering makes a difference in minion survivability though, unless you mean bone offering?
Still works fine ;D
does anyone have some tips on how to increase the dps of zombies and also their numbers, because in 3.12,they have made it 1 zombie per 500 strength?
@KaelirNord
They nerfed The Baron in 3.10 i think, not now. Build is still working with lower amount of zombies - i have just above 1k str, runing with 11 zombies, 3 spectres (Carnage, Cheiftain and Arena Master), Carrion golem and finishing gear for AG as well. When i will get currecy, i will go fro lvl 21 Spectre to get 4th spectre, which will be Marvull Retainers (aoe Vunerability curse).

Right now, i have around 350k per zombie, so less than 4mln DPS - this isn't a bad deal, but i'm still working on gems (no aw gems yet, all with 20% quality but lvl 18/19), and i have to finish my Cluster jewel as well. With cluster, 20/20 gems and Guaridian i will reach about 600k+ per zombie, which gives around 6.5-7 mln Sirius DPS which is fine in my opinion.

Thewn will have to work for Empower lvl 4 and Enlighten lvl4, swap from Vaal skiel (which i sue now as just meat sheild to lure aggro fromme) for skitterbots/Discipline/Precision (depends how rest of upgrades will go)

Next, i will focuse to reach 1500str to increase zombie dmg even more and add 1 more minion and this will be end i think. Reaching 1,5k str is not very easy, but can be done. I seen few players with 2k + but this is alwyas at some cost and it's pretty ahrd to reach that high amount - i think this might be overkill unless you got a lot of currecy to spend.
Last edited by Zeratul_PL#2990 on Oct 4, 2020, 5:59:12 AM
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Zeratul_PL wrote:
@KaelirNord
They nerfed The Baron in 3.10 i think, not now. Build is still working with lower amount of zombies - i have just above 1k str, runing with 11 zombies, 3 spectres (Carnage, Cheiftain and Arena Master), Carrion golem and finishing gear for AG as well. When i will get currecy, i will go fro lvl 21 Spectre to get 4th spectre, which will be Marvull Retainers (aoe Vunerability curse).

Right now, i have around 350k per zombie, so less than 4mln DPS - this isn't a bad deal, but i'm still working on gems (no aw gems yet, all with 20% quality but lvl 18/19), and i have to finish my Cluster jewel as well. With cluster, 20/20 gems and Guaridian i will reach about 600k+ per zombie, which gives around 6.5-7 mln Sirius DPS which is fine in my opinion.

Thewn will have to work for Empower lvl 4 and Enlighten lvl4, swap from Vaal skiel (which i sue now as just meat sheild to lure aggro fromme) for skitterbots/Discipline/Precision (depends how rest of upgrades will go)

Next, i will focuse to reach 1500str to increase zombie dmg even more and add 1 more minion and this will be end i think. Reaching 1,5k str is not very easy, but can be done. I seen few players with 2k + but this is alwyas at some cost and it's pretty ahrd to reach that high amount - i think this might be overkill unless you got a lot of currecy to spend.


Did you craft your staff or did you buy it? It's like 100k per zombie over Femur. Insane.

Got correct base with proper mods - around 3ex
Get it to 6 Sockets - about 100 jewelers
Get it to 6 Link - about 600-800 Fusings
Crafts - 6 EX

Total cost was around 13 Exalts, maybe 14 (depends on fusing ratio). now i'm thinking if i should add Avian on it or Exalt slam.
Avian isn't bad, but would be much stronger with Saqual Chest instead of Geofri.
Exalt can give a lot of useless suffixes, but can give also STR or Resistances...

All of that becaouse i went for the Incursion "minions have 5% to deal double dmg" as i wills tack it with Cluster jewels with Renewal on them (1 or 2 clusters will be used later on).

But there is another way to craft powerfull two-hand as well, which instead of providing chance for double dmg would grat you more str :) depends what you want later on, as Femur is great weapon, and only "end game" crafted wepons can beat it most of the time - but those weapons are pretty expensive and not very easy to craft, so most ppl will make just 1 of those, therefor i suggest consider how you prefer your build in the very end, before working on a weapon. As i mentioned, there are 2 common ways - one for increased str, 2nd for double dmg, and biggest difference is, if you want to get cluster jewels or not (also quite expensive to craft/buy)/
Last edited by Zeratul_PL#2990 on Oct 4, 2020, 7:25:38 AM

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