3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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Keyser Soze 15 wrote:
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Keyser Soze 15 wrote:
Hi guys, still looking for feedback on my Necro lvl 97 build for Standard on Xbox One. She is a lot of fun but if there are any fundamental things I should do to toughen her up I would appreciate hearing it. Here are a few things I am messing with now.

I yanked Discipline out and replaced Skitterbots. I also booted Flesh and Stone and Dread Banner to use Blasphemy with Elemental Weakness & Flame Dash. I like Blasphemy for cursing over branding... I am going to use Flame Dash for more speed and Elemental Equilibrium on bosses.

I added Frost Wall to CWDT link. I personally think they work well with this build even though others don't like Frost Wall.

This leaves one more spot open but I have to decide what I want before I go and rearrange all my socket colors. I am leaning towards Minion Life for AG but still undecided. I could add something else to my CWDT combo... if anyone has any thoughts let me know. I can't afford another aura.

Thanks


I am not getting any feedback... am I not specific enough? Am I too late in the season to ask such questions? Anyways, I enjoy "conceptualizing builds" and would very much like to learn from you guys. Any feedback or dialogue on my lvl 97 necro Standard build would be appreciated.


So looking at your Char you seem to have your Spectres as your main offense(6link weapon) rather than Zombies which are also setup as Offensive.

If that's the case then your Baron helmet is not fulfilling it's potential of helping you stay alive as your won't be getting much benefit from the Life Leech attribute because your Spectres will be killing monsters before your Zombies can even get a look in.

If you want to stick with Spectres I'd take a look at this forum post https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2181275 as Kay specializes in this type of build.

A few leagues back I did a similar thing using Slave Drivers as my main damage and that was great for that particular league(Blight) but with all the recent changes to Spectres in the last two leagues, they've become less powerful along with other minions. in Metamorph I switched over to pure Zombies and did so much better as you could scale their damage much better.

But this league(Delirium) Minions got a huge buff from Cluster jewels, especially Megalomaniacs with Vicious Bite but the build now requires serious investment to get it to surpass what it was to deal/cope with this leagues content.

I think I've put in about easily +80ex into my Necro this league and I still struggle to survive in some circumstances, my Zombies are virtually unkillable, think I've been through about 5 AG's with Kingmakers(luckily they are cheap this league)

Oil Anointment from Cassia.
Hello everyone,
so first of all, i'd like to thank Brunowa for this amazing build and Kuramaensigu for the time he took to help me and for his kindness towards a stranger.
I'd also like to thanks Elorathiel for the theorycrafting he's done.

So, here is my try to this build (in STD, i'm kind of a slow player, earning money, not the kind of league rush one).

I'd first say i'm new to the forum and it's the first time I ever post for a build in years, i'm more of a solo guy, so i'm sorry if everything is not formatted correctly.

Here is my stuff:

Spoiler


Helmet:
(40% increased zombies damage)
Body Armour:
(6-link aura setup, needed less mana reserved that's why I got Conqueror's Potency you'll see later)
Weapon:
(Aspect of the avian, 6 link raise-zombie setup, for level 30 zombies)
Boots:
(Kura, I love you man)
Gloves:
(Legacy for a ton of extra ES)
Belt:
(Strength, attributes and the dexterity I need)
Ring 1:
(Free slot to put anything)
Ring 2:
(got unlucky on the life roll)
Amulet:
(not the best STR roll but... yeah, it does the job)

Flask setup:

Using this one ATM, it's nice.
Legacy Rumi's not cheap, if you can afford a double-legacy one, go for it...)

Also I don't know how to link jewels in the tree here but i'm using a watcher's eye with +46% chaos res with purity of elements, 31% faster start of ES recharge with discipline and 18% of max mana as extra max ES with clarity, explaining why I play with those auras instead of damaging ones, safer play-style.
I also run Conqueror's efficiency with 1% reduced mana reserved corruption.

Cluster Jewel is:
- Large with feasting, rotten claws and vicious bite
- Medium with hulking corpse and dread march
Waiting to buy another medium but I don't know what yet and i'm broke atm, I run conqueror's efficiency in second slot.

And I got a great Lethal Pride near Faith and Steel, that's why I allocate holy dominion and light of divinity near Templar start (major thanks to Kuramaensigu on this one, again).



Stats are, at level 93, 6200 life, 8400 ES, 1600+ strength, +46% es recharge occurrence modifier, 100+% elemental res (76 lightning and cold, 77 fire), -2 chaos res, +30% movespeed, 24% physical damage reduction, 3 spectre, 13 zombies, 422% minion damage modifier, 144% minion life modifier and a shitton of other nice things... 6 link aura is what I love to play, aspect of the avian, level 30 zombies...
You are both insanely tanky and your zombies are melting things...

Do not hesitate to check socket links and tree, you should be able to see the cluster jewel I use at the time.

So, thanks again to those I mentioned earlier and to everyone who sold me the required items.

I truly believe this build is insane, def one of the best builds I tried in years...

PS: If anyone needs help of any kind for this build just ask, i'll check here often, or you can PM me directly in game @SumSthromb, i'll answer asap
Last edited by Sthrombulo#4840 on May 16, 2020, 12:12:21 PM
Hi guys ! I'm a bit at a loss with the build.

DPS wise it's very cool, and I see where I could improve things (better empower, level 21 zombies...), but honestly I can't play it anymore at the moment without feeling quickly disgusted. 6k life (which is not much but is not small either) and I keep getting one shot. Again. And again. And again. And again. My zombies or animate guardian survive me of course, but what's the point if I can't open a delirium mist without dying ?

It's my fist time playing a summoner, I thought I'd be sage behind them, but they won't go much near ennemies if I don't. And if I do...

Plus I don't see much way to make currency now (I'm not very good at that part of the game sadly). I was over hyped when the build started to work, but now...

Any body seen a glaring weakness in my build (apart from the santuary, but getting enough strength AND resists on the rest of gear is hard) ?



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Pingouinmalin

Hi guys ! I'm a bit at a loss with the build.

DPS wise it's very cool, and I see where I could improve things (better empower, level 21 zombies...), but honestly I can't play it anymore at the moment without feeling quickly disgusted. 6k life (which is not much but is not small either) and I keep getting one shot. Again. And again. And again. And again. My zombies or animate guardian survive me of course, but what's the point if I can't open a delirium mist without dying ?

It's my fist time playing a summoner, I thought I'd be sage behind them, but they won't go much near ennemies if I don't. And if I do...

Plus I don't see much way to make currency now (I'm not very good at that part of the game sadly). I was over hyped when the build started to work, but now...
Any body seen a glaring weakness in my build (apart from the santuary, but getting enough strength AND resists on the rest of gear is hard) ?


The issue here is your survivability: you have str, you have life, you'll do damages and have zombies, but on hit you have nothing and Pride doesn't help you.
You went for a full offensive version of the build, glass-canon and your boots are not the most helpful item here to say the least ^^

Change your boots for a rare with res and str and try to lay your hands on a shaper's touch and geofri if you want survivability...
You also don't have minion damage on weapon, you can either:
- get avian on another item and switch to 2 wands for +1 all minion gem and minion damages (lot)
- get a better 2h weapon with minion damages

And change your belt for a raw str (life and res are ideal after str, try a heavy belt base or a Leather one but we want heavy)

In addition, you could change your auras from your chest (you can either remove pride and get a watcher for chaos res on purity of elements and clarity or discipline, or keep pride if you want damages but, yeah, you'll die.
I find pride better suited with 2 1h weapons
And dread banner, discipline, purity more suited to 2h playstyle with geofri's sanctuary

Oh and get a rumi, granite flask, basalt flask, quicksilver flask
Then a life flask to complete, it's nice, Blood of the karui is great but it's up to you

Lastly, jewels are a cheap way to get missing res / life / strength / dexterity or whatever
Last edited by Sthrombulo#4840 on May 16, 2020, 12:51:17 PM
Thanks for the answer !

The boots and gloves, I'm trying to get rid of, but the problem is the strength. I need some and if I get rid of both... I'm trying something with the Split Personality jewel (if I can get the right cluster jewel with double jewel slots, it will bring me 142 strength plus some life).

Why do you say pride is useless ? It is in the basic version of the build.

The weapon is not good ? Aaw man, it's my most expansive item by far. And impossible to upgrade (when I say I'm poor, I'm not joking, 1 ex (or 1.5) must be the grand total of my currency + zero interesting thing to sell beyond what I have in the build. It would not be a priority to upgrade : the DPS is not really a problem + I NEED the strength (especially if I get rid of boots and gloves) !

Is it just my feeling or is EVERYTHING so expansive ? I played other leagues with no such problems.
Pride is not useless, it's useless given the issues you are facing, don't get me wrong ^^

The thing is, str stacking build are expensive, because they are still quite popular...
hello again ,

just wanted to know if hulking corpses+feasting fiends medium cluster jewels are better than hulking corpses+renewal. or hulking corpses and other notable?

thank you
Hey guys just a headsup...Fortress covenant jewel does not work in the cluster jewel sockets..although paste bin calculates it..theres a tooltip when you socket it that says

"Jewel Radius will not function in a socket added by a cluster jewel"

Can someone clarify this?
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Bokuden wrote:
Hey guys just a headsup...Fortress covenant jewel does not work in the cluster jewel sockets..although paste bin calculates it..theres a tooltip when you socket it that says

"Jewel Radius will not function in a socket added by a cluster jewel"

Can someone clarify this?

Afaik that just means the negative effects of the covenant jewels, as in, passives in radius are transformed to decrease minion dmg or whatever, don't function.
In other words, if you socket a covenant Jewel in a cluster spot, you get all the bonuses of the Jewel without any of the negatives.

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