3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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TJack89 wrote:

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d4nk wrote:

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TJack89 wrote:

I just don't understand how to survive long enough to allow only zombies to clear mobs. I get wrecked so fast by larger mobs in high tier maps. I don't have much of an issue with damage it doesn't seem, I can dash into a mob and use convocation and they die almost instantly. My issue is being able to dash into the mobs consistently without dying so I am able to use convocation. That's why I rely so heavily on skeletons right now, I can safely cast them from a distance. But the gameplay is soooo slow and getting a bit boring.

Then I watch builds like archmage just fly through high tier maps and wonder if I wouldn't be better off starting up an archmage build with 12ex and upgrading as I fly through maps and get more currency

Hmm, if it's a playstyle thing, then yeah - give Archmage a go.

I pulled your char into POB and it mostly looks fine on paper. I don't have the same experience as you and I have negative Chaos res, so perhaps it's also a matter of adjusting playstyle to a degree.

Few points re. your own survivability, which won't be pricey, so give them a go:
- You don't use Bone Barrier, which gives a lot of phys reduction. Change commander of darkness to this.
- Use upgraded Lunaris for more phys reduction.
- Use VMS / MS / Bone Armour liberally (don't see Molten Shell in your gear)
- Give your Guardian a Kingmaker and use Meat Shield gem, so he sticks to you and give you Fortify.

Recommended clusters don't really affect your char and aren't cheap, but they add huge improvements to your minions.

Awesome thanks for all the info, I'll make some changes and see how it feels. Much appreciated!

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Iceman079 wrote:

Hi
I have few questions - sorry if it was already raised but too many pages and can't read them all.

1) Why weapon with fortify is better than with increased minion dmg.
Fortify gave us only 20% more vs 100% increased on that other weapon. Or is it just for that defensive buff to minions (less damage taken) ??
Weapons with fortify cost 11+ ex but with minions increased dmg (approx 100%) cost only 6-7+ ex.

2) Brunowa mentioned that aspect of avian is pointless on tanky setup - why?
Is this not providing that movement speed and damage (Avian's Might and Avian's Flight buffs) to minions if not using Saqawal's Nest ??

3) There was debate which offensive spectres are best. There are nice examples on page 1246. Someone also mention that monster who cast deathmark is also good - can't find that conversation and I would like to know which monster cast deathmark - maybe is better than Arena Master spectre ??


Thanks in advance for any answer.

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HoundsOfShadow wrote:

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TJack89 wrote:

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d4nk wrote:

Hmm, if it's a playstyle thing, then yeah - give Archmage a go.

I pulled your char into POB and it mostly looks fine on paper. I don't have the same experience as you and I have negative Chaos res, so perhaps it's also a matter of adjusting playstyle to a degree.

Few points re. your own survivability, which won't be pricey, so give them a go:
- You don't use Bone Barrier, which gives a lot of phys reduction. Change commander of darkness to this.
- Use upgraded Lunaris for more phys reduction.
- Use VMS / MS / Bone Armour liberally (don't see Molten Shell in your gear)
- Give your Guardian a Kingmaker and use Meat Shield gem, so he sticks to you and give you Fortify.

Recommended clusters don't really affect your char and aren't cheap, but they add huge improvements to your minions.

Awesome thanks for all the info, I'll make some changes and see how it feels. Much appreciated!

Yeah, honestly I almost gave up on the 1000 strength, because I couldn't get above like 650 lol. Finally I was like screw it, let's buy a couple of the int to strength gems, re-do a couple skill tree points, and go hard on strength.

I gave up some max life nodes to accomplish the 1000, but honestly the leech from your minions is super important, so doing whatever I could to get to 1000 strength made a big difference for me.

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TJack89 wrote:

I never really had much issue getting to 1000 strength, my problem has just been not getting insta-killed going into big mobs in t15 and t16 maps. I think its just a playstyle thing, but im not sure. I have 1140 str, 6.2khp and 2.4k es with capped res and 61% chaos res. In the videos he posted for the guide he just walks into mobs and uses convocation and destroy mobs, i try that and i get killed before i can even use convocation a lot of times.

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brunowa wrote:

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TJack89 wrote:

I never really had much issue getting to 1000 strength, my problem has just been not getting insta-killed going into big mobs in t15 and t16 maps. I think its just a playstyle thing, but im not sure. I have 1140 str, 6.2khp and 2.4k es with capped res and 61% chaos res. In the videos he posted for the guide he just walks into mobs and uses convocation and destroy mobs, i try that and i get killed before i can even use convocation a lot of times.

Your DPS must be terrible. You are running 4Links trying to smash through T16s, gems with no quality.

Your zombies are not even getting the benefit of +2 levels because you have them in chest instead of weapon.

Your gems are literally all over the shot.

Fix those up and you'll start seeing some big differences.

Higher DPS equals quickly taking down mobs before they can even touch you.