3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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Elorathiel wrote:

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Akisailent wrote:

Seems good strategy, but im afraid its not 1 in 4, loocking on trade you have many possibilities as last suffix:
1-2 jewel sockets
+# to intelligence
+# to dexterity
+# to strengh
minion cast speed
inc mana regen rate
+# to chaos res
all with they multiple tiers and probably the list goes on. Curreency wise its probably easier to chaos spam it if you want to craft it

It's 25.7 percent to slam 2 jewels. Roughly 1 in 4. This is due to each of the rolls having different weights. Remember, not all rolls are equally likely. Chaos are still expensive right now. Later in league chaos spamming might be better when the ex rate is 180-190:1. Right now, it's far better to alt spam.

Where can you see it ?the probabylity I mean. Would be great if it is the case.

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Akisailent wrote:

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Elorathiel wrote:

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Akisailent wrote:

Seems good strategy, but im afraid its not 1 in 4, loocking on trade you have many possibilities as last suffix:
1-2 jewel sockets
+# to intelligence
+# to dexterity
+# to strengh
minion cast speed
inc mana regen rate
+# to chaos res
all with they multiple tiers and probably the list goes on. Curreency wise its probably easier to chaos spam it if you want to craft it

It's 25.7 percent to slam 2 jewels. Roughly 1 in 4. This is due to each of the rolls having different weights. Remember, not all rolls are equally likely. Chaos are still expensive right now. Later in league chaos spamming might be better when the ex rate is 180-190:1. Right now, it's far better to alt spam.

Where can you see it ?the probabylity I mean. Would be great if it is the case.

It's not posted. You take the pool of affixes and their respective weight and crunch the numbers to determine the probability.

The roll is very heavily biased towards 1 or 2 jewel sockets. Just roll one with alts and see how often it comes up. I can hit 2 jewel sockets all the time just alt spamming a cluster. It's super common. It makes sense too, because that's how they wanted the system to work. They wanted you to nest these clusters within clusters. To do that you need the jewel socket. I didn't hand crank out the math myself, somebody did it for me and I just made note of it. But what I said previously, is how you would approach it. Remember this is weighted RNG where not all outcomes are equally likely. It's not as simple as a dice roll which has 6 outcomes therefore obtaining 1 is 1 in 6.

Here I dug up a link that I had bookmarked to reference the crafting of jewels.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/fjwdvd/defacto_cluster_jewel_crafting_guide/

I don't know if you saw this above but:

1 Jewel socket has weight 5000! 2 Jewel Socket has weight 2500!

For reference, strength tier 2 has weight 100.

Delirium nerf patch just pushed! ;p

Delirium modifiers are now applied on a per-pack basis. This means that a given pack of monsters will only have a single Delirium modifier, rather than potentially having a variety of different modifiers.
Reduced the difficulty of Delirium monsters at each mist depth.
Increased the drop rate of Simulacrum Splinters.
Significantly reduced the chance of Delirium modifiers appearing on monsters.
Disgust's mortars no longer deal damage on impact.
Reduced the damage of the stationary volatiles created by Digust's mortar skill by 30%.
Reduced the damage that Rage monsters deal by 20%.
Reduced the damage of the projectile skill that Spite monsters use by 50%. Additionally, this projectile skill is longer affected by additional projectile modifiers. The explosion damage is unchanged.
Increased the range at which Delirium objects that spawn monsters are triggered.
Increased the number of monster packs that spawn when you are far into the Delirium.
Improved the visibility of Shavronne's Books when under the effects of Delirium.
Fixed a bug where Delirium objects which spawn monsters weren't spawning in maps affected by Delirium Orbs.
Fixed a bug where the Assailum unique helmet wasn't restricted to only drop from Delirium bosses.
Fixed a bug where capturing Bestiary beasts didn't give credit towards reward kill counters for Delirium encounters.
Fixed a bug where corrupting a Unique Jewel into a different Unique Jewel didn't give credit towards the Curious Corruption challenge.

Part 1 anyway...

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Elorathiel wrote:

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Akisailent wrote:

Where can you see it ?the probabylity I mean. Would be great if it is the case.

It's not posted. You take the pool of affixes and their respective weight and crunch the numbers to determine the probability.

The roll is very heavily biased towards 1 or 2 jewel sockets. Just roll one with alts and see how often it comes up. I can hit 2 jewel sockets all the time just alt spamming a cluster. It's super common. It makes sense too, because that's how they wanted the system to work. They wanted you to nest these clusters within clusters. To do that you need the jewel socket. I didn't hand crank out the math myself, somebody did it for me and I just made note of it. But what I said previously, is how you would approach it. Remember this is weighted RNG where not all outcomes are equally likely. It's not as simple as a dice roll which has 6 outcomes therefore obtaining 1 is 1 in 6.

Here I dug up a link that I had bookmarked to reference the crafting of jewels.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/fjwdvd/defacto_cluster_jewel_crafting_guide/

I don't know if you saw this above but:

1 Jewel socket has weight 5000! 2 Jewel Socket has weight 2500!

For reference, strength tier 2 has weight 100.

OK, ty! I also theory crafted the ideal small cluster jewel, and it would go something like:
adds 3 passive skills (in this case it better to have more)
added small passives grant: 4% inc life

+13-14 to strenght on small passives
+6 to all attributes on small passives
small passives skills have 35% inc effect
wall of muscle (6% life, 5%inc strengh)

those 4 affixes would be insane for stacking strenght

can someone explain what the blood magic is good for in the spectre link??

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Anubizzz wrote:

can someone explain what the blood magic is good for in the spectre link??

Instead of using mana, your spectres use life to cast abilities which is a more abundant resource which means more casts.

In the 3.10 starter build guide, in the top jewel socket is a "Thread of Hope". I don't understand this as there doesn't seem anything not linked that is also allocated. Am I missing something?

Seems to be doing OK, but I think people with limited playtime expecting to follow a guide and clear the game in the first week have slightly unrealistic expectations.

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In the 3.10 starter build guide, in the top jewel socket is a "Thread of Hope". I don't understand this as there doesn't seem anything not linked that is also allocated. Am I missing something?

POB doesn't really support them, its to get ravenous horde and the hp notable to the left, add them to neck like anointments if you want to sim them, the shared pob links are only for gear author doesn't set them up for dps scenarios


reasking this and thread is flying:
Why do any of the setups use 2 gems for vuln (+blas) when mervails retainer blankets vuln curse?

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Nchi wrote:

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In the 3.10 starter build guide, in the top jewel socket is a "Thread of Hope". I don't understand this as there doesn't seem anything not linked that is also allocated. Am I missing something?

POB doesn't really support them, its to get ravenous horde and the hp notable to the left, add them to neck like anointments if you want to sim them, the shared pob links are only for gear author doesn't set them up for dps scenarios


reasking this and thread is flying:
Why do any of the setups use 2 gems for vuln (+blas) when mervails retainer blankets vuln curse?

Use Mervail's Retainer and instead use another aura of your choice in chest.

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Nchi wrote:

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In the 3.10 starter build guide, in the top jewel socket is a "Thread of Hope". I don't understand this as there doesn't seem anything not linked that is also allocated. Am I missing something?

POB doesn't really support them, its to get ravenous horde and the hp notable to the left, add them to neck like anointments if you want to sim them, the shared pob links are only for gear author doesn't set them up for dps scenarios


reasking this and thread is flying:
Why do any of the setups use 2 gems for vuln (+blas) when mervails retainer blankets vuln curse?

Only personal preference. Some people use aura curse, some use shaper's gloves with curse on hit. I use the Merveil's Retainer because the vulnerability is super strong, covers a large area, and it is casted often. The vulnerability I believe is level 50 on the mob. It also frees up a gem socket or two (blasphemy) and with these being a precious commodity, especially post nerf, I see the Merveil Retainer as a no-brainer.