3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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With the changes to Spirit Offering, is it still worth it to run the Cyclone/CwC setup? I got the impression the main reason for doing so was the massive ES gain/regeneration.

Will be playing this again and seeing what can be done to help improve the build after the nerfs!

Been playing Necro for last two leagues and also did it back when Baron first came out(2.6 You got all your str added to zombies!), we didn't have shaper's touch or used ES/FF/CG buffs/etc back then and it was still amazingly strong.

Last two leagues I only used Shaper's Touch with high life/es armour and did all content.

A lot of concern has been put into the nerf's to zombies/baron/shapers/geofri/etc which is understandable but I think we need to use other ways of applying aura's/buffs to our minions.

This is where your spectres/golems/AG and possibly AW may play a bigger part in this league.

This is what I used in Metamorph which should be in the build guide.
*Spectres 1 Host/2 Carnage/1 Merveils were amazing to utilise with the build.
*Golems: Carrion using nice Enchant "150% increased Effect of the Buff granted by your Carrion Golems"
*Animated Guardian: The usual dying breath, leercast, victarios, Ambus, southbounds and then upgraded to KingMaker along with High life armour with Blind Nearby Enemies mod.

It will be interesting to see how well AW plays and if we can take advantage of being a Necro with it.

Also the new Spectre's that we'll have access to will be nice, in 3.8 I initially focused more on a SlaveDriver build but then switch late game to Zombies which did amazing, so we could potentially go back to spectres again.

My biggest metamorph upgrade by far was my timeless jewel Elegant Hubris that had 240% Increased damage, just bought lots of them and rolled divines until I got something good.

Does anyone have a Discord channel we could pool our resources together in?

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Asinoeh wrote:

With the changes to Spirit Offering, is it still worth it to run the Cyclone/CwC setup? I got the impression the main reason for doing so was the massive ES gain/regeneration.

personally, no. would rather go with a dual wands, one with a trigger socketed spells and put phase run in there with desecrate and flesh offering. uptime on offering doesn't matter so much anymore as you aren't relying on it to give you a bunch of your EHP. it's more of an offensive cooldown now so using cyclone is just a detriment to the speed of your build

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Asinoeh wrote:

With the changes to Spirit Offering, is it still worth it to run the Cyclone/CwC setup? I got the impression the main reason for doing so was the massive ES gain/regeneration.

Instead of Spirit Offering I think Bone Offering is going to be a good alternative, the ES buff was for QoL and BO is a similar thing but means a better chance of not getting hit in the first place.

What are your thoughts on Chest choice after the loss of defensive potential?
If we use Bone Offering ,Block will be one of the most important defensive layers. Since Strength stacking is not so profitable now maybe Geofreis is not that poweful and we could try to look for Block potential somewhere?

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Asinoeh wrote:

With the changes to Spirit Offering, is it still worth it to run the Cyclone/CwC setup? I got the impression the main reason for doing so was the massive ES gain/regeneration.

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brunowa wrote:

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Ziebol wrote:

How about cyclone + cast when channeling in 3.10 ?

Yes you can still definitely do this.

The benefit is you are cycloning therefore stun immune and still moving.

The downside is it takes 2 gem slots which could be better used elsewhere.

It will come down to your preference of how do you like to cast your offerings. Eg wands can simply trigger it, or you can manually cast it.

Personally I will still run it because its a QoL thing for me. I hate manually casting Offering and Desecrate.

i mean is did you update this or you just changed the title?

Hi Guys,

I think I might be on something but need to be check, really looking forward what you guys think

Two options

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1. Not changing much if any (at least in the beginning) except:

2h crafted mace change to 2h crafted staff for 18-20 block
chest replace with Iron Heart
replace spirit with bone offering
meat shield for tankines as we (in theory could just run into mobs with cyclone and bone spam)

with 1k str we should get from 58% to 66% block chance, capping 75% should be Super easy

Question is it worth it? its just block for attack damage, does 75% res cap for spells would be enough to ignore spell block? dont know how that would perform.

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2. Check already with reddit it will work, question how good will be, this build will focus on VD which isnt this build idea but we need 1k str for it.

Iron Heart
Repentance, Crusader Gloves
Crown of Eyes, Hubris Circlet

Passive tree: arcane swiftness And spiritual aid, beside that no change to passive tree, we should get Massive dmg from minions as our own damage, massive damage from arcane swiftness and items above with 1k str, cyclone + VD AND atleast 58% block chance for attacks, I might be wrong but this should be massive dmg (to point that minions would be more of our bodyguards with meat shield

i feel like going saqawal chest this league instead of geofri but i just cant find right build for passives to include great cluster jewels for minions. and i dont know the right auras to be most effective here:(

also maybe dual wand with +1 lvl might be worth more than 2h mace/staff?