3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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tkots8080 wrote:

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brunowa wrote:

Here is a simulation of a WORST CASE SCENARIO in 3.10.

https://youtu.be/lzoZJ87BR9A

Taking into account all majorr nerfs we received:

11 zombies only (due to Baron and gem nerf... we should get 1+ more, but I went conservative).
No Shaper's Touch
No Spirit Offering
No Bone Barrier
No Animated Guardian
No Feeding Frenzy in 6L (Minion Speed instead)

This is basically a worst case scenario.

It can only be improved from this.

Feels weird not cycloning but my brain just needs to adapt.

Its not the worst case. Also sceptres and zombies base damage reduce 40%.

Only skeletons lost 40% damage. Zombies and specters did not get base damage decreases lmao.

Zombies lost 1 zombie baseline and around 3 total for this style build (1k-1200 base str). It went from 14 to 11. Thats a 21% damage loss.

Specters also only lost 2 monster levels. Gem level 21 = 78, 22 = 80 and then 1 level per after that. So getting to 84 is still going to be a joke if that is the build you want to play. They lost around 12% damage.

This also doesn't consider any changes regarding new notables... like getting the ability to get 40% impale chance which gives 100% impale. Or allowing your minions to gain crit scaling. Even post nerf skeletons can get upwards of 800k each with mediocre gear.

Will it be a joke to gear to get to the point where you kill conqs in 1 second? Absolutely not. Is it still possible? Yes, very much so.

From Standard perspective, what you guys think about this build in 3.10?

Nobody has tested it yet. Hard to say. Possibly pseudo Tier 1 with investment. With Legacy items in Standard still POG. My 2 cents ofc.
Thing is, with quite some investment some other builds will outclass this build dps wise, specially Melee and Sabos.

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ArisFuser wrote:

Nobody has tested it yet. Hard to say. Possibly pseudo Tier 1 with investment. With Legacy items in Standard still POG.

I have the investment hahaha xD

Ofc ill need do some tweaks

Then go pick a better Baron enchant ;)

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ArisFuser wrote:

Then go pick a better Baron enchant ;)

Yes. I never worried about that. I always killed everything without even needing xD

Killing all the shit since 2013 with no problems

anyone thought about using this belt or tried it before??
i saw some vids with someone using it and it looked pretty decent.

iam not worried about dps with this build at all to be honest.
(playing standart with legacy items tho^^)

my main concern with the changes is ES recovery and staying alive, now that spirit offering is just a resist/dmg buff.

that belt is the only thing i can think of, that would refill your ES reliably.
no idea tho if vaal pact would be needed as well, needs some testing.

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Inos wrote:

anyone thought about using this belt or tried it before??
i saw some vids with someone using it and it looked pretty decent.

iam not worried about dps with this build at all to be honest.
(playing standart with legacy items tho^^)

my main concern with the changes is ES recovery and staying alive, now that spirit offering is just a resist/dmg buff.

that belt is the only thing i can think of, that would refill your ES reliably.
no idea tho if vaal pact would be needed as well, needs some testing.

I used this for a few weeks with vaal pact. Its reliable if u are really running through everything without stopping. It needs some practice to get used to, because without sending zombies first u won't survive 5 seconds.
As a side note, belts are essential for a build. You will lose lots of HP and ES without a good belt. Maybe I should try again with really high HP using Kaom's or a rare chest.

With Spirit Offering being nuke to the ground ( according to reddit. i intend to league start Delirium with your build and its my first summoner so i dont really know for sure ) what are your thoughts on switching it out for flesh offering to gain more Attack/Cast/Movement speed for Minions?

Flesh Offering is a very viable option, specially for levelling up , when DPS is an issue. Bone Offering is a QoL of life both for you and your minions when things get rough later on, since Meat Shield factor is HUGE. If you don't plan to use Mistress of Sacrifice, then Flesh Offering all the way.