[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Zuuule wrote:

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Sixtysan wrote:

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ichbinwerichbi wrote:

hi whiterocks

I saw youre build variation as grainaule wrote about it. Can you tell me what is the benefit above the standard version ? I played last league the wich version and love the profane bloom effect as it makes clearing so much easyer. With scion its not possible (ok i get stun immunity but there are other ways to get them as wich).
Perhaps a small pro and con would be really fine, as i dont know what to play next league and dont like to make 2 chars. I prefere playing one char the whole league and optimise them

Tankfully waiting on a reply :-)

The biggest advantage of scion is full curse immunity, free conseq ground without a flask, more passive points and the fact that you can choose whatever ascendancy passive you want with the duo jewels, so you can get Raider's free phasing frenzy/onslaught (really useful when you move so fast). Elementalist's reflet imunity +20% exposure or new Mastery damage multiplier + ES leech from Trickster.

How does it give full curse immunity? I see that it can mitigate a lot of it. Maybe I'm missing something.

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whiterockxx wrote:

@zuuule

Inquisitor ascendency + flask with less curse effect or Inquisitor + pantheon

Obs.: Consecrated ground reduce 50% the effect of curses on you

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ichbinwerichbi wrote:

@grainaule

is that a special playing style to get 6 challenges every league ? b

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Kelvynn wrote:

Updated for 3.19

Not much changes in 3.19. 15% Mana Reservation mastery is gone. But that's not a big deal for the Ascendant version. Discipline and Clarity reservation masteries provide more than enough mana for leveling and budget mapping/bossing. And at the high end you have so much mana that you don't even need those.

Doedre's Scorn got changed and lost its curse damage mods, so it's no longer quite as good for leveling. Whatever.

Trickster is now another good option for Forbidden Flesh/Flame. 12-15% more damage from the 5-6 Masteries we use, plus it lets you ignore monster haste mods.

Added a link to the Occultist version and a bunch of uber boss videos from 3.18.

Oh, and the new Trickster looks like a lot of fun. ES overleech! And even more defenses (evasion). The damage in PoB looks on par with the Ascendant. I think I'll play a Trickster in 3.19 just for fun.

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Larloch1821 wrote:

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Kelvynn wrote:

Updated for 3.19

Not much changes in 3.19. 15% Mana Reservation mastery is gone. But that's not a big deal for the Ascendant version. Discipline and Clarity reservation masteries provide more than enough mana for leveling and budget mapping/bossing. And at the high end you have so much mana that you don't even need those.

Doedre's Scorn got changed and lost its curse damage mods, so it's no longer quite as good for leveling. Whatever.

Trickster is now another good option for Forbidden Flesh/Flame. 12-15% more damage from the 5-6 Masteries we use, plus it lets you ignore monster haste mods.

Added a link to the Occultist version and a bunch of uber boss videos from 3.18.

Oh, and the new Trickster looks like a lot of fun. ES overleech! And even more defenses (evasion). The damage in PoB looks on par with the Ascendant. I think I'll play a Trickster in 3.19 just for fun.

Arent monster hasted increased attack/movespeed and not action speed. As I understand it trickster only caps action speed

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Kelvynn wrote:

Updated for 3.19

Not much changes in 3.19. 15% Mana Reservation mastery is gone. But that's not a big deal for the Ascendant version. Discipline and Clarity reservation masteries provide more than enough mana for leveling and budget mapping/bossing. And at the high end you have so much mana that you don't even need those.

Doedre's Scorn got changed and lost its curse damage mods, so it's no longer quite as good for leveling. Whatever.

Trickster is now another good option for Forbidden Flesh/Flame. 12-15% more damage from the 5-6 Masteries we use, plus it lets you ignore monster haste mods.

Added a link to the Occultist version and a bunch of uber boss videos from 3.18.

Oh, and the new Trickster looks like a lot of fun. ES overleech! And even more defenses (evasion). The damage in PoB looks on par with the Ascendant. I think I'll play a Trickster in 3.19 just for fun.