[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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MalcontentBunny wrote:

Quick question -- does Elemental Damage with Attack Skills apply to CwC Icestorm for this build?

Not sure if that interaction works out at all.

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bard2000 wrote:

The build has obvious problems like that it is triggering ice storm with cwc which the point of that support is that you are using two 5l simultanously, but he is using cyclone, which he cant even hit with since he has no accuracy. He might as well just drop cyclone and self cast it since it does nothing for the build really. On top of that he is int stacking with a skill that has been subpar since its rework

There are other weird choices like why is he getting increased skill effect duration? Icestorm doesn't really scale with it

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bard2000 wrote:

The build has obvious problems like that it is triggering ice storm with cwc which the point of that support is that you are using two 5l simultanously, but he is using cyclone, which he cant even hit with since he has no accuracy. He might as well just drop cyclone and self cast it since it does nothing for the build really. On top of that he is int stacking with a skill that has been subpar since its rework

There are other weird choices like why is he getting increased skill effect duration? Icestorm doesn't really scale with it

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Reanmachine wrote:

Hi, I've been watching this build since MANY MANY leagues ago, too scared to try it out for lack of game knowledge.

This league I said fuck it, let's try. I figured I had enough game knowledge to make it work but I guess I didn't as I'm 2-2.5 ex deep into this one and hard stuck at T12 maps.

I can't seem to scale my int over 1600 without multiple ex worth of investment at this point and I'm at a loss entirely on how to become viable in T13+

Here's a snapshot from POB -- perhaps someone can tell me what I've done wrong...

https://pastebin.com/CiJrQrWx

Thanks in advance.

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wsmithjr02 wrote:

Thanks for the build. I was looking for a Scion build and this is a lot of fun.

I'm not a POE expert, so I'm trying to understand how the curses work in this build.

I currently have a 4L with CWDT lvl 1 - Ball Lightning lvl 1 - Hextouch Support lvl 2 - Enfeeble lvl 1.

I know how CWDT works and I see that triggering. I also see the Ball Lightning going off. What I don't see is the Enfeeble. I can't tell if it's working or not. If I self-cast Enfeeble, I see the monsters get affected by it. I can also see the monsters get affected if I self-cast any of the trigger spells, Lightning Ball, Ice Nova and Frost Bomb. I don't see any such indication when it's triggered by CWDT.

Assuming it's working as intended, what about other possible delivery methods for the curse? The build indicates I can use a Phantasmal Wave of Conviction, which I don't have. But, what about Ice Nova or Frost Bomb? Do they work differently than the Frost Bolt? Hextouch indicates it supports all of those spells. Given the focus on cold damage, I wonder why a lightning spell is chosen for this job as opposed to a cold spell. I was thinking Ice Nova would have been good to curse a larger group of monsters at once than Ball Lightning.

Also, why should Ball Lightning be kept at lvl 1 when a higher level spell can still be cast by CWDT?

Thanks for any help understanding how this works.

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wsmithjr02 wrote:

Thanks for the build. I was looking for a Scion build and this is a lot of fun.

I'm not a POE expert, so I'm trying to understand how the curses work in this build.

I currently have a 4L with CWDT lvl 1 - Ball Lightning lvl 1 - Hextouch Support lvl 2 - Enfeeble lvl 1.

I know how CWDT works and I see that triggering. I also see the Ball Lightning going off. What I don't see is the Enfeeble. I can't tell if it's working or not. If I self-cast Enfeeble, I see the monsters get affected by it. I can also see the monsters get affected if I self-cast any of the trigger spells, Lightning Ball, Ice Nova and Frost Bomb. I don't see any such indication when it's triggered by CWDT.

Assuming it's working as intended, what about other possible delivery methods for the curse? The build indicates I can use a Phantasmal Wave of Conviction, which I don't have. But, what about Ice Nova or Frost Bomb? Do they work differently than the Frost Bolt? Hextouch indicates it supports all of those spells. Given the focus on cold damage, I wonder why a lightning spell is chosen for this job as opposed to a cold spell. I was thinking Ice Nova would have been good to curse a larger group of monsters at once than Ball Lightning.

Also, why should Ball Lightning be kept at lvl 1 when a higher level spell can still be cast by CWDT?

Thanks for any help understanding how this works.