[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything
" Cell phone post here but yeah glad to see ypu back. Harvest was mirror tier gear for almost everyone. I personally tried to push the build to its limits and did a summary of it a couple days ago. Agree totally with the"gardening" it doesn't feel like it belongs in this type of game. I made the same conclusions so far about the nerfing. I.e. what are they really thinking with 5 storm limit. I put in Awakened Added Cold Damage in PoB and manually calculated it with 60% effectiveness, its better but not really surpassing Aw Cold Penetration. I used the firestorm google spreadsheet and modified it to new values. Storm limit makes it a headache but the damage loss per se is only for targets that you hit for longer than 6 seconds with 2.5k+ Int (or targets where you can ramp it up with precast). Lingering storms will no longer exist so area coverage is a lot worse I guess. As for SC I believe they count Storms not casts so we might be looking at a strange period indeed. | |
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Still waiting for confirmation from GGG. The language does appear clear, though: "Now has a maximum of 5 storms at a time" so I believe we will need to take it at face value.
The big defensive thing will be that we will be squishy at the high end. The +ES on hit Eye becomes drastically less effective, and that was (for me at least) the item that made me significantly less squishy at red maps/level 90+. Offensively, I used spell cascade on the conquerors because the wider spread of storms ensured that it was more likely I was getting a successful leech. And stacking the storms was important for many bosses. We'll just have to figure out ways to increase the damage. | |
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I'm having a play through leveling a scion, what's the best way to level from league start as a scion? I'm using ice shot atm but feels slow.
Any suggestions? Would love that to be added to the guide. :D Just a leveling section ready for 3.12 using freezing pulse and what to link with it etc |
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This is how my Ice/Fire 2k INT performed with crap items using Less duration to simulate the future.
But remember, the hits will be more consistent due to decrease area of effect and increased shard area hit... and the First fire hit will do 150% more dmg The E.E makes it feel a bit better... maybe https://youtu.be/c0wFMH_6ZSs Last edited by whiterockx on Sep 16, 2020, 9:13:00 PM
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" I tried the same thing but against minotaur aswell for single target. You're better off dropping firestorm and having that extra dps gem. 5 storms will be more than enough to clear maps. |
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Everyone needs to think about it like this....
Every .2 seconds you're casting twice the damage with more getting hit by each explosion. Don't think of it as a trail of storms but as a 5 explosion cycle resetting instantly with a storm tick of double damage every .2 seconds Now that flat damage will scale slightly better you can cast 5 storms per second so it would be no different to an ice crash build without stopping to use ice crash? Last edited by Hemzokuken on Sep 16, 2020, 9:31:29 PM
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" My idea adding behind add Firestorm is: 1 - Fill the gaps between shard hits (this is my main priority); 2 - 1st Firestorm hit will be the "Meteor", that is the one who does + dmg (150%); 3 - Since shards hit alternadly, Elemental Equilibrium apply -50% resistence, and could be better than have an Awakened Cold Penetration linked; 4 - The Firestorm limit is 3, so you will be hitting with +150% dmg hit often. 5 - I'm running out of ideas xD! |
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I updated my PoB with adding Firestorm just for shits and giggles, and it actually doesn't look terrible.
Like 180k average hit icestorm and 60k average hit firestorm. I've got a curse setup of elemental weakness + frostbite + flammability, along with a CWDT setup of frost bomb + wave of conviction + blade blast(unnerve), and of course vortex + bonechill. So it's like world of debuffs. It looks hilarious, too. I know these won't be the numbers after patch, obviously, but was just messing around. https://pastebin.com/YKY7ybzZ As Kelvynn said, it's probably much better finding a cold spell to drop in there instead of firestorm. Maybe ice nova or frost bolts? Expand our vortex's? Don't know. I'll wait for the experts to weigh in, as usual. | |
" Totally agree. I feel like this is simply a rebalance. It's gonna be different of course, but not bad. I am taking that optimistic train of yours. To WI or not to WI? That AIN'T a question. DO IT! | |
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Maybe we go full fire conversion on it and use a better spell for single target in chest? (Maybe arma brand/cremation)
Or perhaps try to generate charges somehow for a single target discharge? Edit - " Definitely!! Last edited by ultra_super_hyper on Sep 16, 2020, 10:08:52 PM
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