[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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NoNick1337 wrote:

I'm just wondering how are you guys dealing with movement speed during cycloning. I bought this flask and it's helping a lot, especially when there's a need to dodge attacks.

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Ivan_Sorenson wrote:

Mhm, for Endgame Art of the Gladiator could be a good Note to pick?
4 Points - 50 Int, No Armour Movement pen

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Kelvynn wrote:

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NoNick1337 wrote:

I'm just wondering how are you guys dealing with movement speed during cycloning. I bought this flask and it's helping a lot, especially when there's a need to dodge attacks.

Any Quicksilver flask with a good speed roll will do. Rotgut is Ok. I prefer something that lasts longer when you are not killing:

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stephenp1983 wrote:

I've been playing around with the new stampede boots that give 150% base value for movement speed. With these on I am constantly at +50% movement speed modifer even with the cyclone penalty. With a quicksilver of adrenaline (70 total movement speed), and onslaught flask up I'm only 2% higher (52% movement speed modifer, during flask effect). I added thiefs Craft for 30 int, and these have been much smother for mapping. I switch to my higher ES/INT boots for bosses. So basically these give the same movement speed you'd get with 30MS boots and a QS/Onslaught flask at all times. May not be worth it if you try to get movement speed from other sources as it locks you at the 150% base.

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Kirian42 wrote:

Whoa, Interesting that you decided to go for Cyclone over WO after all, Kelvynn. Your build looks almost exactly like what I had at the end of last league! It was fun times.

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WhoMans wrote:

So im playing this build currently in standard as I've been having shit luck in Blight and can't seem to catch a break getting currency to get some proper gear.

Just wondering about the tankness of the build and dps. Currently lvl 88, have 7.5k ES and 1.77k Int. Just finished doing corrupted T16 guardians just for the atlas completion bonuses, and it felt like the guardians could have got a lot smoother. I tried making the 'safest' maps as possible by scouring, transmute, then regal just 3 relative safe mods before vaaling.

While it was the first time ive completed corrupted guardian maps, I did die a couple times and the dps felt a bit 'meh' compared to other map bosses. I know my stats arent as good as yours just yet but just trying to get a feel of the potential of this build, as with other red map bosses, sometimes I would pretty much one shot them yet others would tank my hits and take a good 10 seconds to die, with the guardians taking a bit longer. And the kind of build im after in standard is a lazy one that can facetank pretty much everything and be able to still melt guardians and shaper instantly and farm any engame boss without much thought in standard and not worry too much about map mods either.

Just wondering if guardians will always be fairly difficult regardless of the build for the most part and arent really meant to be played with a lazy facetanking style, but any of the normal elder T16 maps I decide to pick to sustain and farm will still be a breeze? Will this build be decent for delving for farming fossils and resonators for profit?

Either way, im enjoying the build and I appreciate the detail of your guide. Would be nice to pick Elementalist instead of Ocultist just to be totally reflect immune and not worry too much about map mods except for regen/leech, especially when we only use one curse anyway.

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Kelvynn wrote:

Non-T16 bosses that don't die in 2 sec are the ones with scripted phases and animations that cannot be bypassed. Nothing you can do about them, they die the moment their animation is over.

T16: Minotaur and Phoenix die in less than 10 sec with a fully developed build. Hydra does 1 hiding animation before dying, so add 20 sec. Chimera has the 3 add phases followed by the smoke phases, although somewhere around 2200 Int is where you can force him to skip the smoke phases - once you practice enough to wait for him at the spot he re-appears in after the add phase and have a bunch of Icestorms going on there to instantly force the next add phase.

Shaper: With 2k+ Int you normally do all the damage you need in less than 4 sec, during his first animation. The fight lasts longer only if he randomly chooses the red bubble or the portal as his first animation.

Uber Elder: see the video. My char is not even fully developed there. But Cyclone makes it so smooth, as long as you get precise enough in your movements. Targeting slightly to the side of the Shaper is the key to dodging his ball barrages while moving towards him and casting on him.