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meomeomeo1991 wrote:
i think u need calculate using paper, pob cant do this. they dont calculate the time they need to explode, they just calculate att speed and damage to get DPS.
POB are just for for review purpose so that new player can refer to.
i already split into 2 setup.
SRS - Empower - Fire Penetration - Spell echo
will gave u:
~ Double the cast speed u had before
~ Save a lot of mana consumption
~ More than enough time for u to dodge
~ More damage according to POB
~ Suitable for fast map clearence
SRS - Empower - Fire Penetration - Elemental Focus
will gave u:
~ 50 More damage on top
~ Enough time for u to dodge
~ Definately more damage than above
~ Suitable when facing bosses
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2624459
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Posted byStupidSmile#1904on Aug 16, 2019, 11:12:54 AM
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StupidSmile wrote:
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meomeomeo1991 wrote:
i think u need calculate using paper, pob cant do this. they dont calculate the time they need to explode, they just calculate att speed and damage to get DPS.
POB are just for for review purpose so that new player can refer to.
i already split into 2 setup.
SRS - Empower - Fire Penetration - Spell echo
will gave u:
~ Double the cast speed u had before
~ Save a lot of mana consumption
~ More than enough time for u to dodge
~ More damage according to POB
~ Suitable for fast map clearence
SRS - Empower - Fire Penetration - Elemental Focus
will gave u:
~ 50 More damage on top
~ Enough time for u to dodge
~ Definately more damage than above
~ Suitable when facing bosses
i just mean calculate the DPS. how much dps u got after all?
my build :
[3.8] ice golem 7m+ UE dps - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2615681/page/1#p22292507
[3.8] ZOMBIE AND THE BOIS https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2628455/page/1#p22347490
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Posted bymeomeomeo1991#7922on Aug 16, 2019, 12:47:44 PM
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meomeomeo1991 wrote:
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StupidSmile wrote:
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meomeomeo1991 wrote:
i think u need calculate using paper, pob cant do this. they dont calculate the time they need to explode, they just calculate att speed and damage to get DPS.
POB are just for for review purpose so that new player can refer to.
i already split into 2 setup.
SRS - Empower - Fire Penetration - Spell echo
will gave u:
~ Double the cast speed u had before
~ Save a lot of mana consumption
~ More than enough time for u to dodge
~ More damage according to POB
~ Suitable for fast map clearence
SRS - Empower - Fire Penetration - Elemental Focus
will gave u:
~ 50 More damage on top
~ Enough time for u to dodge
~ Definately more damage than above
~ Suitable when facing bosses
i just mean calculate the DPS. how much dps u got after all?
I already provide the pob links. Feel free to count yourself.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2624459
For minion helmet mirror service
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2616501
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Posted byStupidSmile#1904on Aug 16, 2019, 6:09:49 PM
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StupidSmile wrote:
I already provide the pob links. Feel free to count yourself.
The 'Total DPS' value I assume you are using is incorrect. PoB calculates this value by multiplying your minion's attack speed by the damage done by the explosion.
This doesn't make sense because the explosion happens only once per minion. If you have all 20 raging spirits up your peak damage will be 461598 * 20 = 9.2m. However this value assumes you can cast all 20 instantly.
To calculate your peak dps, you need to divide the peak damage by your cast time to summon all 20 raging spirits.
If it takes you 2 seconds to summon all 20, then your dps is 9.2/2 = 4.6m dps. If it takes 3 seconds then your peak dps is 9.2/3 = 3.1m dps.
ign - happycabbaged
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2918696
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2920423
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Posted byhappycabbaged#1687on Aug 17, 2019, 12:30:25 AM
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happycabbaged wrote:
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StupidSmile wrote:
I already provide the pob links. Feel free to count yourself.
The 'Total DPS' value I assume you are using is incorrect. PoB calculates this value by multiplying your minion's attack speed by the damage done by the explosion.
This doesn't make sense because the explosion happens only once per minion. If you have all 20 raging spirits up your peak damage will be 461598 * 20 = 9.2m. However this value assumes you can cast all 20 instantly.
To calculate your peak dps, you need to divide the peak damage by your cast time to summon all 20 raging spirits.
If it takes you 2 seconds to summon all 20, then your dps is 9.2/2 = 4.6m dps. If it takes 3 seconds then your peak dps is 9.2/3 = 3.1m dps.
you forgot to calculate the time they need to explode. how many explode per sec?
i assume u can get 20 in 0sec, then u still time to w8 them to explode. cast new one won't make them exploded.
my build :
[3.8] ice golem 7m+ UE dps - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2615681/page/1#p22292507
[3.8] ZOMBIE AND THE BOIS https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2628455/page/1#p22347490
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Posted bymeomeomeo1991#7922on Aug 17, 2019, 1:00:48 AM
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meomeomeo1991 wrote:
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happycabbaged wrote:
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StupidSmile wrote:
I already provide the pob links. Feel free to count yourself.
The 'Total DPS' value I assume you are using is incorrect. PoB calculates this value by multiplying your minion's attack speed by the damage done by the explosion.
This doesn't make sense because the explosion happens only once per minion. If you have all 20 raging spirits up your peak damage will be 461598 * 20 = 9.2m. However this value assumes you can cast all 20 instantly.
To calculate your peak dps, you need to divide the peak damage by your cast time to summon all 20 raging spirits.
If it takes you 2 seconds to summon all 20, then your dps is 9.2/2 = 4.6m dps. If it takes 3 seconds then your peak dps is 9.2/3 = 3.1m dps.
you forgot to calculate the time they need to explode. how many explode per sec?
i assume u can get 20 in 0sec, then u still time to w8 them to explode. cast new one won't make them exploded.
it depends on how badly they were attacked. Can be 4sec or even 1sec. Most bosses/master attack are enough to trigger all 20 of them to explode instantly along with the bosses. Since in most cases, they already dead or shift phase, that is why i state as damage instead of dps.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2624459
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Posted byStupidSmile#1904on Aug 17, 2019, 12:50:05 PM
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-it take them about 3 sec at 20k life to explode.
-This build is not legion league friendly because of how legion mobs target players with 1 shot attack you ll be dead before the srs take care of all legion rares.
Only good for standard build or bossing.
Poe Pvp experience
https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302
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Posted byHead_Less#6633on Aug 17, 2019, 4:37:50 PM
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Head_Less wrote:
-it take them about 3 sec at 20k life to explode.
-This build is not legion league friendly because of how legion mobs target players with 1 shot attack you ll be dead before the srs take care of all legion rares.
Only good for standard build or bossing.
The rarer the mob, the faster they will explode. The build have up to 12-13k ES enough to withstand most of the damage that could 1 shot you.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2624459
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Posted byStupidSmile#1904on Aug 17, 2019, 10:56:35 PM
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StupidSmile wrote:
it depends on how badly they were attacked. Can be 4sec or even 1sec. Most bosses/master attack are enough to trigger all 20 of them to explode instantly along with the bosses. Since in most cases, they already dead or shift phase, that is why i state as damage instead of dps.
You're still using the wrong values from path of building. Each explosion does 462k damage, not 725k. The Total DPS value on path of building is calculated completely wrong.
The second thing is, damage alone isn't a very useful measurement. A discharge build can do 20 million damage but if it takes 10 seconds to wind up each explosion, it only averages out to be 2m dps.
For this build, dps depends on explosion damage as well as your cast speed. If you cast 7x per second your dps is 462k*7 = 3.2m dps.
ign - happycabbaged
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2918696
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2920423
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Posted byhappycabbaged#1687on Aug 17, 2019, 11:22:39 PM
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happycabbaged wrote:
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StupidSmile wrote:
it depends on how badly they were attacked. Can be 4sec or even 1sec. Most bosses/master attack are enough to trigger all 20 of them to explode instantly along with the bosses. Since in most cases, they already dead or shift phase, that is why i state as damage instead of dps.
You're still using the wrong values from path of building. Each explosion does 462k damage, not 725k. The Total DPS value on path of building is calculated completely wrong.
The second thing is, damage alone isn't a very useful measurement. A discharge build can do 20 million damage but if it takes 10 seconds to wind up each explosion, it only averages out to be 2m dps.
For this build, dps depends on explosion damage as well as your cast speed. If you cast 7x per second your dps is 462k*7 = 3.2m dps.
Am a simple guy. It can be bug, glitch, overlap or anything. So I only wrote down whatever been shown by the Path of Build. Let the result speaks for themselves.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2624459
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Posted byStupidSmile#1904on Aug 18, 2019, 6:53:55 AM
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