[3.13] LIGHTNING ARROW/BARRAGE Deadeye Build / Zap your way forward! UBER ELDER DONE!

Hey Vetroxbl:
So I've been farming, and I acquired the Aul's. (finally)
Putting Projectile weakness into the CWDT setup; what level do you have your CWDT and projectile weakness? I feel like you'd want it low, so that the curse will proc alot.
Is it fine to have a higher level precision? I feel like I don't have any mana problems having 60% of my mana reserved.
What other helm would you recommend over fractal thoughts? Starkonjas is what you said you use. I'm wondering if I can get res on my helm. Trying to figure out my resistances, with the gear that I have. I'm really locked into having res on only my belt, glove, and boots. The assmark ring only has 60 res on it. Then if I'm using mark of the elder, I still need like 30-50 res altogether.
Would you highly recommend starkonja's over fractal thoughts?

I'm trying to figure out my gem setup now, and I really want to keep blodrage, because the frenzy charges give me more damage than the power charges. But yes, I know that I will have difficulty keeping up the charges against bosses.

angry_roleplayer, feel free to provide your input too. :) Thanks again for the basis of the guide

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philthechil wrote:

Hey Vetroxbl:
So I've been farming, and I acquired the Aul's. (finally)
Putting Projectile weakness into the CWDT setup; what level do you have your CWDT and projectile weakness? I feel like you'd want it low, so that the curse will proc alot.
Is it fine to have a higher level precision? I feel like I don't have any mana problems having 60% of my mana reserved.
What other helm would you recommend over fractal thoughts? Starkonjas is what you said you use. I'm wondering if I can get res on my helm. Trying to figure out my resistances, with the gear that I have. I'm really locked into having res on only my belt, glove, and boots. The assmark ring only has 60 res on it. Then if I'm using mark of the elder, I still need like 30-50 res altogether.
Would you highly recommend starkonja's over fractal thoughts?

I'm trying to figure out my gem setup now, and I really want to keep blodrage, because the frenzy charges give me more damage than the power charges. But yes, I know that I will have difficulty keeping up the charges against bosses.

angry_roleplayer, feel free to provide your input too. :) Thanks again for the basis of the guide

Precision level 1, bow guys have no problems wirth accuracy.
CWDT proj weakness is an unreliable once-in-a-lifetime proc. Why do you even waste a few slots for that??
Get an ass mark ring and you are done.

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philthechil wrote:

Hey Vetroxbl:
So I've been farming, and I acquired the Aul's. (finally)
Putting Projectile weakness into the CWDT setup; what level do you have your CWDT and projectile weakness? I feel like you'd want it low, so that the curse will proc alot.
Is it fine to have a higher level precision? I feel like I don't have any mana problems having 60% of my mana reserved.
What other helm would you recommend over fractal thoughts? Starkonjas is what you said you use. I'm wondering if I can get res on my helm. Trying to figure out my resistances, with the gear that I have. I'm really locked into having res on only my belt, glove, and boots. The assmark ring only has 60 res on it. Then if I'm using mark of the elder, I still need like 30-50 res altogether.
Would you highly recommend starkonja's over fractal thoughts?

I'm trying to figure out my gem setup now, and I really want to keep blodrage, because the frenzy charges give me more damage than the power charges. But yes, I know that I will have difficulty keeping up the charges against bosses.

angry_roleplayer, feel free to provide your input too. :) Thanks again for the basis of the guide

As for the CWDT - Proj. Weakness levels, I usually go to a 1/3 of my max HP on the CWDT and pair the curse with that gem lvl.
Accuracy can be leveled, but the real aim is capping hit via gear and dropping it completely, since the actual crit chance on the aura is somewhat low value. 2 heralds and 1 aspect is the best use of mana reservation.

As for the helm I run a rare, with a +1 Barrage Starkonja stashed for bossing. I wrote about that already. Here's a somewhat compiled writeup of my opinions on the build that I try to keep updated.

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

CWDT proj weakness is an unreliable once-in-a-lifetime proc. Why do you even waste a few slots for that??
Get an ass mark ring and you are done.

Uhm, no it's not. It's the cheapest efficient way to double curse a boss once you obtain Whispers of Doom on your amulet. Just let the boss hit you on purpose at the start of the fight and it's a ~20% more multi for 2 gem slots.
I've already explained this very specific scenario. You should read it, it's teaching.

LocalIdentity's PoB fork now (yesterday's update) supports Voidfletcher. Bowmen rejoice.

How to calculate it's effective DPS



0#
Equip your Voidfletcher so the damage calculations are correct.

#1
Take the damage number shown. In my case 174.051.

#2
You gain Void Shot charges every 0.5 seconds, or in other words 2charges/sec. Multiply the above number by 2.

2 * 174.051
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348.102

#3
Void Shot produces additional explosions based upon your additional projectiles from gear & Ascendancy.

In my case this is baseline 0, so my effective Voidfletcher DPS is 348.102.

During Dying Sun this goes up to +2 projectiles, so my effective Voidfletcher DPS becomes:
348.102 + (2 * 348.102)
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1.044.306 DPS

For someone running Arborix / Death's Opus + Dying Sun:
348.102 + (2 * 348.102) + (2 * 348.102)
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1.740.510 DPS

For someone running Arborix / Death's Opus + Dying Sun + Endless Munitions:
348.102 + (2 * 348.102) + (2 * 348.102) + 348.102
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2.088.612 DPS

IMPORTANT:
This assumes all your Void Shots actually do damage to the target. As during clear you'll mostly be 1or2-shotting mobs none of the explosions will actually trigger on them, hence all of this DPS becomes worthless.

If you're still not 1or2-shotting mobs during clear Voidfletcher will most likely be a significant boost.

Voidfletcher also shines on bosses, since you're guaranteed not to 1-shot those.

Here's a helpful spreadsheet.

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vetroxbl wrote:

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Don't let deluding yourself into being relevant be your demise. Even Izaro says 'The throne is the most devious trap of them all.'

Man are you drunk? I have never seen anyone here in this forum that is so obsessed with someone elses post that they even start to make the OP uncomfortable. Time for you to make a reality check.

Just make your own vision of this build and create a new post, you seem to have enough own ideas, or what is the problem? There is like literally no reason for you to not do it, unless you enojoy the attention that you get here. And stop trying to drive a wedge between OP and the community and call it help. Unbelievable behavior here right now.

I'll just provide my input here. So many people have had problems and questions with this build. I was a build lost after the basic levelling, and Ventroxbl has had so many insightful posts that have been helpful for me. So much more dps now. Even if it is a branching off of the original build, imo, it doesn't matter if it's in the same thread. I feel like it would be more of a disservice if he replied to people's questions with "here's my version of the build, check it out here". I feel like he's doing angryroleplayer a favor, since he is keeping this build RELEVANT to current game meta(morph). He seems to care a bit more about sharing detailed advice. It's been like 80/20 information from ventroxbl/angryroleplayer; outside of the first post.
Sorry to shit on you a bit, roleplayer; I love the basis of your build and I'm having a lot of fun with it.

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philthechil wrote:

I'll just provide my input here. So many people have had problems and questions with this build. I was a build lost after the basic levelling, and Ventroxbl has had so many insightful posts that have been helpful for me. So much more dps now. Even if it is a branching off of the original build, imo, it doesn't matter if it's in the same thread. I feel like it would be more of a disservice if he replied to people's questions with "here's my version of the build, check it out here". I feel like he's doing angryroleplayer a favor, since he is keeping this build RELEVANT to current game meta(morph). He seems to care a bit more about sharing detailed advice. It's been like 80/20 information from ventroxbl/angryroleplayer; outside of the first post.
Sorry to shit on you a bit, roleplayer; I love the basis of your build and I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Hey I totally understand all of your points and I agree with you.

But I can understand OP even more. He created a build guide based on how HE wants to play this particular skill. And there are other guides out there for the same skill including other ways and ideas. No one says there only has to be that one LA guide with maxed out DPS numbers and bla bla.

Then there is that one guy here who is so persistent with his own vision of this build that he starts to make the OP feel uncomfortable in his own thread. He has been asked to create his own guide for his LA ideas, but he rather stays here and adds fuel to the fire with kinda arrogant replies and Izaro quotes (lol). Yes, he helps out other people in here which is nice, but why doesn't he just make an own guide... There is one of his (vetrox) replies somewhere here that already looks like a good start to a new guide. He could just use this a basis. And if that one is better, then I am sure that many people will follow him and thats good. And if angryroleplayers thread dies out, well, then it is what it is.

You see that quite often, new guides from players who have followed a different guide first and then created a new one implementing their own ideas.
And then you have this guy here lol who seems to prefer turning this whole drama into something else... maybe because secretly he enjoys that much of ARP attention? Lets be friends and stay respectful and have a nice day

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markuskanada wrote:

Man are you drunk? I have never seen anyone here in this forum that is so obsessed with someone elses post that they even start to make the OP uncomfortable. Time for you to make a reality check.

Just make your own vision of this build and create a new post, you seem to have enough own ideas, or what is the problem? There is like literally no reason for you to not do it, unless you enojoy the attention that you get here. And stop trying to drive a wedge between OP and the community and call it help. Unbelievable behavior here right now.

So your logic is that once someone following a build gets (or things they got) stuck, and asks for help, everyone should rather stay silent or tell them to read the build again?
That's some straight up r/thanksimcured shit right there lmao. The sole fact this build has "3.9" in it's title, while being completely 'developed' in an older patch which thanks to the massive overhaul in 3.9 makes it almost unviable past a certain point, is a massive sham.

Publicly posted builds aren't anyone's private property. They're literally meant to be discussed, criticized and improved upon. If you don't any of that happening then either keep them in your own notepad, or post them on a privately owned website like poe-vault (which I am in no way related to and advise against for pretty much anything besides mild inspiration) or whoever else does.

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markuskanada wrote:

Just make your own vision of this build and create a new post, you seem to have enough own ideas, or what is the problem? There is like literally no reason for you to not do it, unless you enojoy the attention

I hope you understand just how contradictory this is.

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vetroxbl wrote:

So your logic is that once someone following a build gets (or things they got) stuck, and asks for help, everyone should rather stay silent or tell them to read the build again?
That's some straight up r/thanksimcured shit right there lmao. The sole fact this build has "3.9" in it's title, while being completely 'developed' in an older patch which thanks to the massive overhaul in 3.9 makes it almost unviable past a certain point, is a massive sham.

Publicly posted builds aren't anyone's private property. They're literally meant to be discussed, criticized and improved upon. If you don't any of that happening then either keep them in your own notepad, or post them on a privately owned website like poe-vault (which I am in no way related to and advise against for pretty much anything besides mild inspiration) or whoever else does.

I hope you understand just how contradictory this is.

I do help everyone, but you are preventing me from doing that because you are replying to every damn post in this thread as fast as possible (yes i checked your posts) as if you created the build. And you haven't. Your so called "discussing" has turned into simple shaming a long time ago.
Don't tell about "massive overhaul" while weaing nothing but 3.7 and even 3.6 gear in STANDARD league. This is simply misleading. Nothing changed for the build gear-wise in 3.9, except for everything being tankier and some bow mods being nerfed. I do know my own builds and i can't learn anything from you.

Just wanted to Say Thanks for This build, i finnaly reached Sirius after around 3 Months of playing i started this build like a month ago or so.
this build also gave me all the information to build my next League character the right way. i swapped some stuff out tho cause my budget was poor like im using an Astramentis as a Necklace and i also use an Guardian influenced Ring with Curse enemies on Hit with Lightning Vulnerability lvl8, i also capped resistance instead of more dmg.
just felt like posting that , thx for the Build guide o/
here is my pob in the end. i was on a budget , propably ended up spending around 2-4 exalts , started with 0 currency.
https://pastebin.com/0ArfZnps