[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

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EternalValley wrote:

Hello! Thank you a lot for the build, I'm enjoying it a lot so far.
The only problem I have is with my reserved mana. I can't seem to free up enough mana for discipline no matter what I do, even though I'm trying to follow your PoB. The only changes I have is that I do not have most of the awakened gems and no empower yet, I replaced it with Ruthless as someone else mentioned doing so in this thread.
I believe I am missing something, but I can't seem to find it. On PoB it shows me that I've got 29% unreserved mana, but if that was the case I would be able to active my discipline. Here is my PoB: https://pastebin.com/yRzqQ63J
(I just need 1 more level to reach a jewel socket, then I will max out my resistances :p )

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lethorn_ekb wrote:

First of all - your rings are bad. You need increased reservation efficiency and sentinels of purity deal % increased damage.
After you get these 2 rings - you need to improve quality of your rings by fertile catalysts for increasing mana reservation efficiency.
Also I'd recommend to get rid of Memory Vault because u get 20% reduced reservation efficiency from it.

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Kathovarh wrote:
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Vatinas wrote:
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Semisoulus wrote:
I switched to this after they day 1 nerfed Energy blade. I really enjoy the build and love the tankiness. However, I was wondering if you have addressed the mana issues with the CWDT on Holy Relic? CWDT's 250% modifier makes it nearly impossible to run with the low mana we end up with (34 mana for me with 46% and 39% mana res Circle of guilt), unless you run Holy Relic at super low lvl which seems pointless to me. The only thing I could come up with is to ditch CWDT, add Minion life and self cast it when I get the chance. Otherwise I am left trying to rebuy all of my jewels for mana res and bumping my other CoG up to 46% with catalysts as well, and that is not cheap. Even with that tho I don't think you could run a lvl 20 Holy Relic. Any Help would be nice. Other than that great job on the build!


I'm currently able to have it trigger. My rings are at 39% and 44%, the only difference with the PoB is that I'm using Ruthless instead of Empower, given how expensive it has become. I might make this replacement permanent, to be honest, it's a bit less dps overall, but it's way cheaper, and makes mana reservation easier (120% mana multiplier instead of 130%).


It's also possible to run Empower and a lvl 2 Enlighten in your aura setup, if you ditch Reckoning.

Is Reckoning only for trigerring Culling Strike support more often and generating spiders more easily ? Or am I missing something ?


It can also maim & curse enemies without us hitting them (although Tempest Shield already does the curse part), but the main use is debilitating enemies, thanks to the shield mastery & the alternate qualities.

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Semisoulus wrote:

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Kathovarh wrote:
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Vatinas wrote:
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Semisoulus wrote:
I switched to this after they day 1 nerfed Energy blade. I really enjoy the build and love the tankiness. However, I was wondering if you have addressed the mana issues with the CWDT on Holy Relic? CWDT's 250% modifier makes it nearly impossible to run with the low mana we end up with (34 mana for me with 46% and 39% mana res Circle of guilt), unless you run Holy Relic at super low lvl which seems pointless to me. The only thing I could come up with is to ditch CWDT, add Minion life and self cast it when I get the chance. Otherwise I am left trying to rebuy all of my jewels for mana res and bumping my other CoG up to 46% with catalysts as well, and that is not cheap. Even with that tho I don't think you could run a lvl 20 Holy Relic. Any Help would be nice. Other than that great job on the build!


I'm currently able to have it trigger. My rings are at 39% and 44%, the only difference with the PoB is that I'm using Ruthless instead of Empower, given how expensive it has become. I might make this replacement permanent, to be honest, it's a bit less dps overall, but it's way cheaper, and makes mana reservation easier (120% mana multiplier instead of 130%).


It's also possible to run Empower and a lvl 2 Enlighten in your aura setup, if you ditch Reckoning.

Is Reckoning only for trigerring Culling Strike support more often and generating spiders more easily ? Or am I missing something ?


It can also maim & curse enemies without us hitting them (although Tempest Shield already does the curse part), but the main use is debilitating enemies, thanks to the shield mastery & the alternate qualities.

I ran anomalous SHR with minion life and just self cast it. Which I admit is annoying but it does allow me to run it now and the down time is not that bad. I am not sure what you guys are talking about cause I did not see a reckoning setup at all. Is there a new build guide out?

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Vatinas wrote:

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lakmethemud wrote:

Just wanted to say thanks for the build. I followed it to the T and just hit lvl 90. Watching your videos, you seem to have way more Mana (5000+) than I do. Currently, at lvl 90 I have 2700 Mana.

Is this something that comes with another 10 levels to 100? I have every node the same as your PoB link, except some minion damage and "Resistance and Ailment Protection Mastery" circle. And I'd like to think my gear is maxed almost as well as I could muster as well.

Thanks!

The videos are from another patch (the number is written next to the video). The build used to have more mana.

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muzzol wrote:

I would like to try this build with Occultist so I can take advantage of Profane Bloom and Malediction.

Can you give me some advice?

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Vatinas wrote:

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muzzol wrote:

I would like to try this build with Occultist so I can take advantage of Profane Bloom and Malediction.

Can you give me some advice?

Yeah, don't : ^)

Guardian gives us a lot of damage, and a lot of damage. As much as I love the occultist ascendancy, it's just nowhere near as good for this build as guardian is.