(3.14) Toxic Rain + Caustic Arrow | 5-10m Sirus DPS | Fast + Durable | 50c Budget/SSF Uber Elder

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Seefourdc wrote:

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Kloxyy wrote:

How come I followed the steps and had a RARE Bow with only +2 and crafted CANNOT ROLL ATTACK MODS and I used the FARRIC WOLF ALPHA on it and it came out with added fire damage instead of the +1 and +2????? Nice followed guide and lost an ex.

Sounds like a bug. They messed around a lot with the tags this league.

Yeah let's blame the guide for the fact that GGG messed with crafting (and a lot of other stuff too, like curses not working how they should). Added fire damage is an attack mod, so if it rolls despite "cannot roll attack modifiers" then it means GGG fucked up and the affix isn't working.

Hey, I am strongly considering running this as my league start (console pleb here so not till Wednesday). Putting together a list of gems I need for leveling and curious what I should do for my 4th link between level 8 and 31.

My three link is TR-VM-MA, but the next one I want at level 18 is Vicious Projectiles but as a shadow I won't have access to that until the library quest if I decide to do that or more likely Lilly in Act 6. So with that unavailable what is a good 4th link until I get access to the two level 31 gems Swift Affliction and Efficicy?

I see a lot of people using Concentrated Effect but is our dot area damage or does that just scale the pod popping damage (but making the pods hit less mobs). I was thinking damage on full life but unfortunately we don't have access to that one either as a shadow so doesn't solve anything

I apologize if this has been discussed elsewhere just wanted to get an idea, I was kind of leaning Onslaught but wondered what other people did assuming I can even get a 4l for long enough for this to even matter :)

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Hey, I am strongly considering running this as my league start (console pleb here so not till Wednesday). Putting together a list of gems I need for leveling and curious what I should do for my 4th link between level 8 and 31.

My three link is TR-VM-MA, but the next one I want at level 18 is Vicious Projectiles but as a shadow I won't have access to that until the library quest if I decide to do that or more likely Lilly in Act 6. So with that unavailable what is a good 4th link until I get access to the two level 31 gems Swift Affliction and Efficicy?

I see a lot of people using Concentrated Effect but is our dot area damage or does that just scale the pod popping damage (but making the pods hit less mobs). I was thinking damage on full life but unfortunately we don't have access to that one either as a shadow so doesn't solve anything

I apologize if this has been discussed elsewhere just wanted to get an idea, I was kind of leaning Onslaught but wondered what other people did assuming I can even get a 4l for long enough for this to even matter :)

Poison support. Or Deadly Ailments support. (You getting this in act 2 as shadow). To be fair, 3link is more than enough shredding through act till library.

Anybody have an idea how this compares to the build from Tripolar bear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcscT0asfP8

He seems to have a Quil Rain as bow which seems very powerful indeed, then going carcass jack too. But the tree also deviates a lot, going down to Wind Dancer etc. So which one is better?

I'm a tooltip warrior, I know, but why, according to this guide this bow:



Is better than this




But I lose like 1k dps in the tooltip

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nico5051 wrote:

I'm a tooltip warrior, I know, but why, according to this guide this bow:

Is better than this

But I lose like 1k dps in the tooltip

Gem levels are almost always better than flat damage this is especially true after Lv20 in a lot of gems. Just take a look at the BASE difference in TR 20 and 22:
20 Damage Effectiveness 73% Damage Multiplier 72.8% Chaos DPS 285.1
21 Damage Effectiveness 74% Damage Multiplier 74% Chaos DPS 316.2
22 Damage Effectiveness 75% Damage Multiplier 75.2% Chaos DPS 350.6


Also this is a bloom based (DoT) damage build, which your tooltip doesn't really factor well at all.

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VampyricTiddle wrote:

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nico5051 wrote:

I'm a tooltip warrior, I know, but why, according to this guide this bow:

Is better than this

But I lose like 1k dps in the tooltip

Gem levels are almost always better than flat damage this is especially true after Lv20 in a lot of gems. Just take a look at the BASE difference in TR 20 and 22:
20 Damage Effectiveness 73% Damage Multiplier 72.8% Chaos DPS 285.1
21 Damage Effectiveness 74% Damage Multiplier 74% Chaos DPS 316.2
22 Damage Effectiveness 75% Damage Multiplier 75.2% Chaos DPS 350.6


Also this is a bloom based (DoT) damage build, which your tooltip doesn't really factor well at all.

That makes sense, thanks

In case anyone is leveling I threw together a gem chart for where to pick up your gems as a shadow

Act 1
Enemy At the Gate (Run Ranger through brutus get Caustic Arrow + Lesser Poison and bow plus a few wis)
Lesser Poison Support - Enemy at the Gate Act 1 (1 wis)
Caustic Arrow - Enemy at the Gate Vendor 1 wis

Mercy Mission
Onslaught - Mercy Mission Reward Act 1 Nessa)
Mirage Archer 4 - Mercy Mission Vendor 1 wisdom (Act 1)
Volley Level 4 - Mercy Mission Reward/Vendor 1 wis

Dash level 4 - Breaking Some Eggs Reward (1 wis)

The Caged Brute
Void Manipulation 8 - The Caged Brute Reward (Act 1)
Blink Arrow Level 10 - Caged Brute Vendor (1 transmute)
Clarity Level 10 Caged Brute - 1 transmute
Flame Dash Level 10 - Caged Brute (1 transmute)
Wither Level 10 - The Caged Brute Vendor (1 transmute)
Withering Step level 10 - The Caged Brute Reward (1 Transmute)
Ballista Totem Support 8 - The Caged Brute (1 Transmute)

Toxic Rain 12 - The Siren's Cadence Nessa Vendor 1 Transmute (Act 1)

Act 2
Faster Casting level 18 - Sharp and Cruel Reward (Act 2)


Act 3
Malevolence Level 24 - Lost in Love - 1 alt
Despair Level 24 - Lost in Love Act 3
Swift Affliction 31 - A Fixture of Fate Reward Act 3
Efficacy 31 - A fixture of Fate Vendor 1 Orb of Chance
Second Wind Level 31 - A Fixture of Fate (Orb of Chance)
Skitterbots Level 16 - Intruders in Black Reward - 1 alt

Library
Vicious Projectiles 18 - Library or Lily 1 Alteration
Flesh and Stone Level 16 - Library/Lilly
Spell Totem - Library/Lilly (1 Transmute)
Increased Duration Level 31 - Library/Lilly (orb of chance)

Act 4
Greater Multiple Proj 38 - The Eternal Nightmare (petarus/vanja)
Withering Touch Level 38 - The Eternal Nightmare (1 alch)
Multiple Totem Support 38 - Lilly Act 6 (1 Alch)
CWDT Level 38 - The Eternal Nightmare (1 alch)
Immortal Call Level 34 - Breaking the Seal Act 4 (Orb of Chance)

Act 6 Lilly
Multiple Totem Support 38 - Lilly Act 6 (1 Alch)

Hey not sure if this has been pointed out or asked before. But in your Belt's abyssal jewel you have increased damage over time with a 2 hand weapon. But further down you say that that modifier doesnt apply to us since we dont attack with the bow directly. So should i look for an abyssal jewel that has normal damage over time or should i look for something else on it?

Question about the new Toxic Rain alternate quality gem, does the 20% debuff effect just effect the hinder (so it would be 8% per pod slow instead of 10% per pod)

Would it also reduce the total slow speed (capped at 60) so would it just take more pods to get the max slow or would the max be reduced by 12% as well?

And of course most importantly is the debuff the dot?