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I don't really see onslaught and mana leech off the top of my head though i realize like a shitton of gems got minor changes and probably didn't all make it into the list either but those two support gems I personally wanted to see.

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Brands = a tough subject they are now just exceptionally bad single target without the keystone and still better than most with it, and the moment theres more sources of 1 brand attach to enemy it becomes better than 95% of other skill again (lvl 20 gems: brand is now down to 518/450 per brand compared to fair skills like fireball, freeze pulse that had ~1.5k dps prior now at ~ 1.8k dps). Keystone needs more balance. Totems have had significant downsides prior like costing tons of mana, eating supports + significant damage redux (less speed), totems die easily in tough fights since they sit still, cost lots of mana (2.5x multiplier?)


Also it is really funny putting freeze mine and freezing pulse side to side.

Freeze mine freeze for (181+271)/2*4.9 ~ 1107 effective freeze damage while freezing pulse freeze for (888+1332)/2 ~ 1110 damage LUL

Freezing pulse even on raw per hit freezes for longer than freeze mine nice. And we can for sure it hits at a faster frequency than clunky mine detonate that doesn't even stack freeze duration if you place like 8 in 1 spot
Wave of Conviction + Spell totem is better clean speed Arc + Spell Totem?
Damage insane, physical 972~1459, Critical 6%, Cast Time 0.7 and added 160%.
Theoretically, Critical 65% or more, 2 weapon extra damage, maybe damage per Totem 400k~600k...
how do you tell if a skill was buffed or nerfed if they dont show the old one to compare?
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leonschepker wrote:
ok bane seems stronger than anything ?
why would u even use essence drain now ?

you would have to cast bane (for cuses)
than contaigon (so spread)
than essence drain to deal damage and spread.

and this would probably do the same of even less damage than just bane with 3-4curses and aoe/damage links ?

and soul rend seems nice but its only a litte more damage than essence drain but only up 0.4 sec (essence drain has like 3-4sec)

so even with some spell duration u would have to cast it at least once or twince a scnd to even do the 2000 damage per sec ?
witch is only 500 more than with ed that u can cast once ever 5-8sec with some duration and freely move arround ?

maybe they want us to just stand still and cast soulrend without gmp for a boss ? with like :
bane
energy shield leech
spell echo
unlseash (if cast speed exeeds the 0.71 sec / charge)
intesify
controlled destr.

idk if this would make sense but with the 4%leech already in thats probably only working with the on hit damage not with the dot you could maybe ? tank/leech alot of es per sec.


I think the pure damage of the Soulrend DoT will be higher than ED with comparable setup in any case. Else we would have no reason to use it for even that.

The problem is that you have too much utility with ED. Contagion spreads it. Take Zealoth's Oath and you have ES "leech" without hitting the enemies because it counts as regen.
And then you have the massive dot that you can throw into the mix with Bane. Which I hope interacts with its own Despair, but you probably have to double cast it for that.

I did some quick math (which is probably wrong) that puts me at quite a bit of ES leech for Soulrend when hitting 50 targets and using GMP, LMP, Void Manip 20% Quali and Efficacy as supports. I took the high end for all of them and reached a total of ~3.6 k. It's questionable how well you will be able to pull that off since density might not allow it, but in combination with Bane and its own DoT, things might not look too shabby. But ED still has the quality of life over it.
Edit: Forgot Controlled Destruction existed for a second, so that number is more realistic/maybe higher. Also Leech mechanics.
Last edited by Nestrior#2914 on Mar 6, 2019, 8:37:12 PM
Wait... so bane with two curses is more powerful than either soulrend or essence drain? And you apply curses? Jesus... I know what I am playing
Evrything good but.. Humm lets discuss about energy leech support for a second... Life leech support 10% increased dmg while leeching with quality, and energy leech gets like 30% MORE multiplier built in lol.. No way its not too much
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Thomasmgp wrote:
how do you tell if a skill was buffed or nerfed if they dont show the old one to compare?

Because we read patch notes that were posted yesterday?
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Luniev wrote:
Bane deals 1060.6 chaos damage per second... WUT !
Honeslty I was not excpecting that much, I thought it would be something like Contagion, more a support than anything. But with those numbers I can 6L it and easily use it as a main clear skill, just switching for Sourlend or ED when boss fighting I guess.

Why switch for one of those other skills when you can stack both?

But actually I'm surprised too, given how amazing the supports you can put on it are--3 curses at 47% more each then Efficacy and Controlled Destruction at 45% more each... why not? Though then again, the supports for other chaos DoT spells are also extremely strong and give over 40% more each anyhow. But yeah it's absolutely viable for clear, and just chuck some other chaos DoT on bosses to complement it and run around like an idiot until they die.

On another note, sad that Unleash support doesn't scale with cast speed in any way. With the cast speed in the build I'm planning (which isn't even specced for very much) and assuming Unleash continues to generate seals even while you cast, it works out to about 20% more casts than you'd get when standing still and holding the spell button (with a damage penalty) versus Spell Echo's 70% more cast speed (with a different damage penalty). I guess if you're moving after every cast it would pull up around even? I'll still probably give it a try (easy to swap gems anyhow) but it seems a little underwhelming to me.

EDIT: Whoops I did my math wrong on Unleash--I guess I'd actually get 40% more casts rather than 20% more cases if Unleash works in the way I'm imagining it does. That doesn't look too bad with the extra burst potential. Maybe.
Last edited by dummyacct7#0565 on Mar 6, 2019, 9:44:26 PM
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TerribleCrowbar wrote:
Evrything good but.. Humm lets discuss about energy leech support for a second... Life leech support 10% increased dmg while leeching with quality, and energy leech gets like 30% MORE multiplier built in lol.. No way its not too much


Yeah I feel bad, there is something really wrong . I mean that gem is a no brainer, while life leech is still horrible....
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Bex_GGG wrote:
we've prepared gem data at level 20 with 20% quality for all the new and reworked gems for this expansion

"Onslaught Support" is missing.
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