Betrayal as a Core Game Mechanic

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xX999Xx wrote:
Or Breach ends in a Fortification encounter

if you trigger an encounter (breach) you CAN control, I'd say it is basically your own fault - but of course I know that it is not that 'common' to clear around these encounters...

And of course this is not lowering the fact of the imbalance and deadlyness of the syndicate fights.
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so...

Can we at least be able to kill JUN and ERASE whole new overall nerfed to the state of being completely worthless Betrayal, from incoming league?
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Mr_Cee wrote:
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Gondalen wrote:
so , from now on we have to find every league the recipes again and again...

this was never different.


true but it was somewhat predictable..you could do rotations for certain masters to level them up..although it was incredibly tedious and boring, finding random unveiled items from assholes, is just way way worse.. and having shit locked down deep in delve with the access to sulphite severely restricted and so on
generally dangerous
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Mr_Cee wrote:
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Gondalen wrote:
so , from now on we have to find every league the recipes again and again...

this was never different.


How's it never different?

Back then it took 4 days worth of daily rotation to get all masters to lv6~7 and unlock everything.

This league it takes full 3 months and we're still missing some unveil crafting options even when you unveil more than 1000+ items because of terrible rng.
Also you have to do delve quite alot to find all outposts, upgrade most of the temple rooms to lv3 , most of the bosses, pure council just to unlock those recipes.

Last edited by mic01851165#0058 on Feb 22, 2019, 7:37:39 AM
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RaZeR_90 wrote:
WAIT! All craft bench recipes will be deleted?!?! If so...are you crazy guys?!?! Can you imagine how many TIME and EFFORT was needed to open ALL of them!!!!!!!!

DO NOT TOUCH opened recipes!!!!!!!!!!
Its gonna be epic fail and please #deletebetrayal!


+1
☣ 𝕯𝖊𝖑𝖛𝖊 𝖜𝖆𝖘 𝖘𝖚𝖈𝖍 𝖆 𝖌𝖎𝖋𝖙 ☣

«𝕾𝖔𝖗𝖗𝖔𝖜 𝖎𝖘 𝖆 𝖈𝖗𝖚𝖊𝖑 𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖕𝖆𝖓𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖙𝖔 𝖔𝖓𝖊 𝖜𝖍𝖔 𝖈𝖆𝖓 𝖆𝖋𝖋𝖔𝖗𝖉 𝖋𝖊𝖜 𝖋𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖉𝖘, 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖕𝖆𝖙𝖍 𝖔𝖋 𝖊𝖝𝖎𝖑𝖊 𝖆𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖓𝖉𝖘 𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖒𝖔𝖚𝖗𝖓𝖋𝖚𝖑 𝖘𝖕𝖎𝖗𝖎𝖙» — Diablo II LoD Manual
So heavily nerfing the experience gain on breach stone without compensating for what was the pain in the *** part of the league. Already that they are hard to come by, and that they would even take damn longer to get with the RNG from master spawning + right betrayal camp + farming for hideout ( since it doesn't seen you guys are adding more progress point per camp done)... Sigh, this gonna be even more pointless.
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Fluffylife wrote:
I think betrayal is one league i would have been happy with not going core..


same.
Okay... The fact that most of the comments here are negative is completely baffling me. Lets go on a small journey together to figure out what would happen if your wishes were granted and Betrayal league were to cease to exist.

A: Remember Vorici? Open target's chest without killing him? Kill target without killing his guards? What about Caterina with her superbly annoying missions? What about Haku which basically demands that you clear a zone and at least half of his missions involves an insane amount of back-tracking. Remember Zana missions being completely and utterly random and often quite worthless? Remember level 8 masters and the PAIN people went through to level them up? Remember the dozens of posts EVERY SINGLE LEAGUE complaining about how crafting recipes were locked behind INSANELY BORING TASKS. -- I guess you don't because that's what you're begging to have back.

B: Betryal added so much amazing content to the game that delighted almost everyone. I say almost cause there are those that just whine and cry about anything. More customization for your maps, new and freaky awesome maps to run, more boss encounters, and more diversity in your gaming experience. -- Do you guys really want to get rid of Scarabs, Enhanced Breachstones, Safehouses in General, Talisman crafting, and the whole slew of other interesting content? OF COURSE IT'S NERFED! That's what the LEAGUE IS!

I could go on and on, but I highly suspect 99% of the people quoting my post won't even bother reading it as it is. So this is a letter to those of you with even a molecule of common sense. Just think about what you're asking.
It will always amaze me that people are crying when a league being to powerfull and the same people crying when they nerf some elements of it to make it core.

Like that never happenend with previous leagues like vaal corrupted zones and more...

People will never stop crying...

I, myself will enjoy playing Synthesis with more things to do...
Path of Exile is a Casino for gambling addicts.
Gambling is not fun nor a game mechanic...
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Juran_Fox wrote:
Okay... The fact that most of the comments here are negative is completely baffling me. Lets go on a small journey together to figure out what would happen if your wishes were granted and Betrayal league were to cease to exist.

A: Remember Vorici? Open target's chest without killing him? Kill target without killing his guards? What about Caterina with her superbly annoying missions? What about Haku which basically demands that you clear a zone and at least half of his missions involves an insane amount of back-tracking. Remember Zana missions being completely and utterly random and often quite worthless? Remember level 8 masters and the PAIN people went through to level them up? Remember the dozens of posts EVERY SINGLE LEAGUE complaining about how crafting recipes were locked behind INSANELY BORING TASKS. -- I guess you don't because that's what you're begging to have back.

B: Betryal added so much amazing content to the game that delighted almost everyone. I say almost cause there are those that just whine and cry about anything. More customization for your maps, new and freaky awesome maps to run, more boss encounters, and more diversity in your gaming experience. -- Do you guys really want to get rid of Scarabs, Enhanced Breachstones, Safehouses in General, Talisman crafting, and the whole slew of other interesting content? OF COURSE IT'S NERFED! That's what the LEAGUE IS!

I could go on and on, but I highly suspect 99% of the people quoting my post won't even bother reading it as it is. So this is a letter to those of you with even a molecule of common sense. Just think about what you're asking.


Boring tasks for around 30 mins each day for 4~5 days vs boring bridge for several months and still can't get x unveil, which one is worse?
Also you need to go all the way out to do all contents, whether you like it or not, just to get access to those recipes.

On top of that , Syndicates would be 12.5 times less common (8% vs 100%) compare to this league, on top of ggg buffing the xp requirement for each tier, how much more time needed can we actually craft?
Or do GGG not want us to craft at all?
Or do GGG expect us to ask other people to craft for us, yet we can't complain/ shame / report them when we get scammed by scammers?

Some people really need to do some deep logical thinking/ reasoning before they comment.
Last edited by mic01851165#0058 on Feb 22, 2019, 8:03:55 AM

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