Shadow - [3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide] - Forum

hi CheeQu, can you please take a loot at my build? https://pastebin.com/0mDSTAdU i wanted to tun haste/blood rage, but now i read in your guide i should not go over 3.6 aps with cyclone strike. with both i have 4.5 says PoB. Without 3.54. so it would be better to run without them? what should i take instead?	Posted by rnbounty#1395 on Dec 28, 2018, 1:42:05 PM Quote this Post
Just curious, how tanky is this build? Or is it one where you aim to delete the boss before the boss sneezes at you?	Posted by Hayrich#0469 on Dec 28, 2018, 1:45:24 PM Quote this Post
" rnbounty wrote: hi CheeQu, can you please take a loot at my build? https://pastebin.com/0mDSTAdU i wanted to tun haste/blood rage, but now i read in your guide i should not go over 3.6 aps with cyclone strike. with both i have 4.5 says PoB. Without 3.54. so it would be better to run without them? what should i take instead? If you have cdr on belts or boots then the guide is wrong. You should be aiming to get just at or under 7.5aps. The aps tooltip already accounts for the two hits per attack. Blood rage is excellent to run along with arakaali pantheon (with queen) as if you have cwdt-IC setup you double your lgoh and leech rates.	Posted by mrpetrov#7089 on Dec 28, 2018, 1:49:49 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" The aps tooltip already accounts for the two hits per attack oh i didnt know that it does that in PoB. then everything should be fine with my setup i guess??	Posted by rnbounty#1395 on Dec 28, 2018, 2:03:20 PM Quote this Post
comfy build, love this	Posted by talichan#7245 on Dec 28, 2018, 2:06:38 PM Quote this Post
" mrpetrov wrote: While cyclone does hit twice per attack BUT the tooltip aps already accounts for this. So you guys are all gimping your dps by not trying to hit just under 7.57 aps with >14% cdr on belt or boots. https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a1e0o1/psa_cooldown_and_aps_thresholds_for_new_coc_and/?st=JQ8CEEZO&sh=805a8556 false sir. my first gif disagrees	Posted by CheeQu#4316 on Dec 28, 2018, 2:27:23 PM Quote this Post
" CheeQu wrote: " mrpetrov wrote: While cyclone does hit twice per attack BUT the tooltip aps already accounts for this. So you guys are all gimping your dps by not trying to hit just under 7.57 aps with >14% cdr on belt or boots. https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a1e0o1/psa_cooldown_and_aps_thresholds_for_new_coc_and/?st=JQ8CEEZO&sh=805a8556 false sir. my first gif disagrees I hope I’m wrong as that would allow me to drop so many ias nodes! I’m on an aero plane so can’t see your gif - what’s it show/prove? Also, the next cdr threshold is I think 27% - is that right? And if so, couldn’t we get a huge dps bump if we can hit that threshold and get the aps up?	Posted by mrpetrov#7089 on Dec 28, 2018, 2:46:32 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" rnbounty wrote: " The aps tooltip already accounts for the two hits per attack oh i didnt know that it does that in PoB. then everything should be fine with my setup i guess?? Tooltip doesn't account for 2 hits per attack, pob also doesn't account for it. proof: On pob select cyclone and do Average damage x Attack rate and the result will be DPS/2.	Posted by CheeQu#4316 on Dec 28, 2018, 4:45:01 PM Quote this Post
" mrpetrov wrote: " CheeQu wrote: " mrpetrov wrote: While cyclone does hit twice per attack BUT the tooltip aps already accounts for this. So you guys are all gimping your dps by not trying to hit just under 7.57 aps with >14% cdr on belt or boots. https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a1e0o1/psa_cooldown_and_aps_thresholds_for_new_coc_and/?st=JQ8CEEZO&sh=805a8556 false sir. my first gif disagrees I hope I’m wrong as that would allow me to drop so many ias nodes! I’m on an aero plane so can’t see your gif - what’s it show/prove? Also, the next cdr threshold is I think 27% - is that right? And if so, couldn’t we get a huge dps bump if we can hit that threshold and get the aps up? Tooltip doesn't account for 2 hits per attack, pob also doesn't account for it. proof: On pob select cyclone and do Average damage x Attack rate and the result will be DPS/2. The next breakpoint is 99ms (3 server ticks), which for CoC requires 52% cooldown reduction - not possible in PoE as of now. So anything more than 14% doesn't offer improvements. Last edited by CheeQu#4316 on Dec 28, 2018, 5:06:46 PM	Posted by CheeQu#4316 on Dec 28, 2018, 4:49:06 PM Quote this Post
" Hayrich wrote: Just curious, how tanky is this build? Or is it one where you aim to delete the boss before the boss sneezes at you? I try to make it as tanky as i can with the current version, still not as tanky as some other builds but it's the best I can do with CoC. With better gear and fortify as 6th link it feels quite safe for me overall. In budget gear tankyness will suffer a bit more.	Posted by CheeQu#4316 on Dec 28, 2018, 5:02:39 PM Quote this Post