Witch - [3.5] Suck's First Level 100 Winter Orb Elementalist Guide! (BSC) Uber Elder/Atziri - Forum

Is a chaos crafted sceptre really that much better than shade of solaris? If i load it in pob it shows that i will loose dps.	Posted by Awesomeblabla#7391 on Jan 10, 2019, 2:38:17 AM Quote this Post
" Zynkh wrote: Thanks for the guide! Really want to try this build out but got some questions... I'm on a supreme tight budget due to not being able to play this league much, what can I use to replace the ring with warlord curse, shield, helmet with ench, amulet and jewel. LOL almost the whole gear. I know it's an stupid question but anyone playing in a really tight budget aswell? Heya, I have been playing this build in SSF Betrayal, and got to 91 so far. Firstly, amazing build, started off on a Vortex witch, but changed to this around lvl 40 and never looked back. Basically the fun of Blade Vortex with the joy of wiping people out without moving :) Regarding your question, I do not have any of the items you have listed and have no issues with up to tier 14 maps so far. Bit of kiting on harder bosses, but still pretty easy kills. I have not played the "full" version so cannot compare to my current state, but the build is more than playable in the gimped version. Do it mate, you will have a blast! Cya	Posted by l33tsmurf#3173 on Jan 10, 2019, 3:56:05 AM Quote this Post
" NSUCK wrote: " blingi wrote: Oh and also could you list the benefits of this versus an occultist version? " clawface wrote: I am playing HC, and I would love to do this build on CI, would it be okay to follow this guide until 70 (taking Occulist) and then switching to full CI Build then? Or do you recommend a different route? I use this build but went CI/Occultist. I just tweaked the tree myself and got ES items instead (they can be expensive). With my current gear (my profile is open) I have just shy of 11k ES after getting a clarity watcher's eye. DPS feels good to me, I did il83 Catarina, shaper, elder (red elder was super easy to keep shaper alive). I'm trying to spawn uber elder now, didn't want to attempt while leveling. I haven't ran it through PoB, I have to uninstall/reinstall every time I want to use it. So I'm sure there are more tweaks that can be made for small efficiency gains. Its also possible that normal jewels are better than abyss, but when I dropped herald of ice for a 2nd curse I thought flat cold damage would be more beneficial. Does the lack of the Inpulsa on a CI build noticably slow your clear? How do you make up for it?	Posted by blingi#3223 on Jan 10, 2019, 4:08:52 AM Quote this Post
Hi everyone, First post and french speaking guy, sorry for the mistakes. First of all, thanks a lot for this build. I switched from blade vortex and this is much better. It's my first league ever and i kill shaper, red elder and uber atziri first try with my shit stuff. Before going to uber elder, i want to upgrade my stuff. The guide doesn't mention in what order to buy your stuff. I have the amulet and rings already and 15 exalts (atziri's acuity on first try ever :-)). Do i buy - inpulsa + green nightmare jewel - inpulsa + multicrafted sceptre - green nightmare jewel + multicrafted sceptre - other ? Thanks for your answers :-) Last edited by Gangrelet#5671 on Jan 10, 2019, 4:26:55 AM	Posted by Gangrelet#5671 on Jan 10, 2019, 4:21:24 AM Quote this Post
Definitely make the Multimod Scepter and buy Inpulsas. Honestly for Uber Elder you could run Loreweave too as it's half the price, the extra 5% cold reduction is huge and according to PoB, it's a dps increase over Inpulsas, even with Shock applied. But I don't know how accurate that is, and you would lose the shock explosion on Uber's adds which is handy. Edit: Just looked over your gear. I would _highly_ recommend you get Aspect of the Spider on an item, as that's a HUGE bonus for us (or any build in the game, really). The 15% damage is great and all, but the monstrous crowd control it offers is unparalleled for something not requiring a socket and only reserving 25% mana. Also, you can run without the Green Nightmare if you take the jewel node near Melding. Place Intuitive Leap there, drop the three 3% life nodes, take Melding and Overcharged for Frenzy generation and you can spend those 3 points, plus the 3 points you saved not using Green Nightmare on more life elsewhere, or more dps. I'd probably go life for Uber Elder. I run Green Nightmare + Intuitive Leap, so it's not that I don't like Green Nightmare. It's just an expensive jewel you can do fine without. Last edited by bewsii#4373 on Jan 10, 2019, 5:15:02 AM	Posted by bewsii#4373 on Jan 10, 2019, 4:59:51 AM Quote this Post
" bewsii wrote: Definitely make the Multimod Scepter and buy Inpulsas. Honestly for Uber Elder you could run Loreweave too as it's half the price, the extra 5% cold reduction is huge and according to PoB, it's a dps increase over Inpulsas, even with Shock applied. But I don't know how accurate that is, and you would lose the shock explosion on Uber's adds which is handy. Edit: Just looked over your gear. I would _highly_ recommend you get Aspect of the Spider on an item, as that's a HUGE bonus for us (or any build in the game, really). The 15% damage is great and all, but the monstrous crowd control it offers is unparalleled for something not requiring a socket and only reserving 25% mana. Also, you can run without the Green Nightmare if you take the jewel node near Melding. Place Intuitive Leap there, drop the three 3% life nodes, take Melding and Overcharged for Frenzy generation and you can spend those 3 points, plus the 3 points you saved not using Green Nightmare on more life elsewhere, or more dps. I'd probably go life for Uber Elder. I run Green Nightmare + Intuitive Leap, so it's not that I don't like Green Nightmare. It's just an expensive jewel you can do fine without. This is a great and in depth reply... Thank you very much ! I will do what you say :-)	Posted by Gangrelet#5671 on Jan 10, 2019, 5:20:57 AM Quote this Post
Could this work with the build aswell? Using it currently on my GC totem, but he is getting a little boring.	Posted by xBeWarned#4515 on Jan 10, 2019, 7:43:23 AM Quote this Post
" blingi wrote: " NSUCK wrote: " blingi wrote: Oh and also could you list the benefits of this versus an occultist version? " clawface wrote: I am playing HC, and I would love to do this build on CI, would it be okay to follow this guide until 70 (taking Occulist) and then switching to full CI Build then? Or do you recommend a different route? I use this build but went CI/Occultist. I just tweaked the tree myself and got ES items instead (they can be expensive). With my current gear (my profile is open) I have just shy of 11k ES after getting a clarity watcher's eye. DPS feels good to me, I did il83 Catarina, shaper, elder (red elder was super easy to keep shaper alive). I'm trying to spawn uber elder now, didn't want to attempt while leveling. I haven't ran it through PoB, I have to uninstall/reinstall every time I want to use it. So I'm sure there are more tweaks that can be made for small efficiency gains. Its also possible that normal jewels are better than abyss, but when I dropped herald of ice for a 2nd curse I thought flat cold damage would be more beneficial. Does the lack of the Inpulsa on a CI build noticably slow your clear? How do you make up for it? Clear feels fine to me, profane bloom works similar to inpulsa. I also don't run any heralds and don't notice a difference (dropped herald of ice to run a 2nd curse via blasphmey, I run vaal discipline, blasphmey/frostbite, and clarity for watcher's eye es bonus). Last night when trying to spawn uber elder I ran 3x sextant t16s, added scarabs, harbinger zana mod, was able to clear safely and quickly. No death's to any guardians.	Posted by NSUCK#0844 on Jan 10, 2019, 9:10:52 AM Quote this Post
Thanks alot for the guide! I was a Tri-herald BV til the every end (lvl 94), hard time trying to get Uber Elder down. Switched to this build, spent quite a bit and was spectical if i would be able to kill Uber Elder. At the end it worked out, killed it on second try on last portal haha. Not a clean fight but it was my first time beating Uber Elder! Thank you! Favorite Leagues: Betrayal \| Delirium. The Forbidden Sanctum, most boring league ever, hands down.	Posted by takebo#7226 on Jan 10, 2019, 10:54:48 AM Quote this Post
" Awesomeblabla wrote: Is a chaos crafted sceptre really that much better than shade of solaris? If i load it in pob it shows that i will loose dps. you dont really need scepter, its just cherry on top shade of solaris is ultra OP and strong for this build ps : also as far as i know POB doesnt calculate damage properly from (non chaos damage as extra chaos damage), in order to calculate this properly just select any other elemental damage instead of "non-chaos", then you will get similiar but not 100% accurate damage increase (you can expect slightly more damage increase), i hope you understand what im talking here	Posted by profa322#6848 on Jan 10, 2019, 12:59:31 PM Quote this Post