Betrayal Challenge Rewards and Hideout Migration Information

omg. first time i like all rewards. this is great.

The aura and cloak both look alright.

The real question though is... How many "Mash your face against the RNG wall" challenges will there be? It's bad enough with the sneaky hypergrind (30 complete Elder spawn cycles? 300 Vaal'd maps?) but the worst part has been the challenges that relied on "nested RNG," such as praying for the CORRECT corruption results from the Atzoatl altars in Incursion, or actually managing to get Aul to spawn several times to get all the challenges or finding all those Delve encounters.

Challenges are supposed to be about forcing players to leave their comfort zone, NOT just mindlessly mashing the same content over and over when it's trivial.

Like, it'd be much better to, instead of the arbitrary "run a crapload of maps" challenge that gets re-badged every season, to have "complete every map on the Atlas." This is actually HARDER, but not as mind-numbing.

I'll be brutally honest: the difficulty it took me to get that 40/40 in Incursion, and with how the grind gets WORSE every league, was one the main reason I skipped Delve entirely. (alongside concerns that proved well-founded about the balance on grinding resources)

I either go 40/40 or I don't play at all. And yes, it's definitely been a trend of increasing time needed to get all challenges, as evidenced by the increasing level of my sole character per league; hitting 90 used to be one of the last challenges to hit, now it's one of the first, and I had to reach -97- without even trying in Incursion. And if this continues, I might become a Standard-only player.

Can't WAIT til the 7th!!! :D

The best rewards so far, hopefully 36 isnt as hard as it was in delve :D

thx

league rewards look amazing. sadly will miss more than a month of the league which will make me miss them.

having amazing time exclusive stuff bound to not having to work during a league or get rid of family stuff /gf doesn't make sense to me but whatever, i wish i could purchase those.

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yep, finally making sense to spend time into hideout decoration is great.

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gunit76 wrote:

The best rewards so far, hopefully 36 isnt as hard as it was in delve :D

If the trend keeps up, it's likely gonna be even harder. Ever since they reworked the way challenges were done starting in 2.1.0/Talisman, it's gotten grindier every single league. At first it was actually easier/more reasonable than the old system, but now it's definitely far worse.

I mean, I hope they'd taken a hint with how much people rejected the challenges in Incursion and Delve, but given how much they boasted (sometimes falsely) about how "successful" their retention was, I highly doubt they'll change this.

Nice aura and cloak !

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vio wrote:

having amazing time exclusive stuff bound to not having to work during a league or get rid of family stuff /gf doesn't make sense to me but whatever, i wish i could purchase those.

Yeah, I think it's a case of where GGG just plain doesn't get it. They only look at what the top streamers can race to, but fail to realize that those peoples' entire livelihood depends on that speed, and hence is nowhere near representative of the rest of us, even those who definitely are NOT "casual."

Couple that with their desperate attempt to keep retention by FORCING grind... And it just keeps getting worse. Moreover, it's been actually backfiring and hurting retention, with more and more people foregoing getting 36 or 40 challenges... Or even playing the league at all.

I thought that the "Endlessly scaling challenge" of the Azurite Mines was supposed to be a fix for that, something that could finally provide those speedy streamers something to keep going on forever. But we'll see... But it remains doubtful that GGG will be able to recognize the reason to make the game less painful for the rest of the serious players.

Can't recall when all 3 league rewards looked this well designed and appealing.