Bestiary, Delve and Incursion Content in Betrayal

Please never change GGG!
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KhobarKast wrote:
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jlh165 wrote:
Also, to all those whining and complaining about “advantages” or “masters.” From 3.5 onwards masters will do one thing and one thing only: provide favour in order to purchase hideout decorations. Your hideout(s) will remain through every league. The dev’s feel it’s acceptable to transfer past progress when possible because all you do is unlock cosmetic decorations. Crafting will no more be tied to masters.


As far as I know this is not correct. Crafting is of course still tied to the masters, as we need to progress in their content to unlock more crafting recipes. So they don't only exist for the purposes of decorations, as you put it.

Just a clarification.


Yeah, I was a bit mistaken here. Mastercrafting is still “master”crafting but tied to content completion as opposed to master level. I have no idea if these are related in any fashion. I certainly hope I don’t start each new season with all crafting recepies already unlocked...defeats the purpose of a seasonal reset. Nonetheless, I am very pleased to not have to grind out master levels with missions but simply manipulate the content I choose to do.
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saragart wrote:
1. Will I need to recapture beasts to craft more items or do I just defeat them again to recraft another item? (It was a massive RNG gate to get the beasts and I disliked beast crafting a lot).

Very good question! But I fear the answer may not be the 'desired' one ^^ (on the other hand - how many encounters of Einhar should happen to be able to fill the menagerie to a crafting-useful amount...?)
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BlaqWolf wrote:
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WithLoveEarL wrote:
The Menagerie! I don't want to always transition to another area in order to get to the blood altar.
What this guy said - allow us to place the blood altar in our HO as we wish

I expect that with Einhar as a master, we have to get the altar (or a portal to the altar room) as new crafting device...
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WiseGuard wrote:
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Monti_Jones wrote:
Mostly because of the extra keybindings I could not reach comfortably.

I'd love him to replace 6 & 7. Or at least 7.

I have remapped the two keys to unused mouse buttons ;)
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YES! So happy to read this!
NOT F..G BESTIARTY ! ITS SHITTY ! GGG PROMISED NOT INCLUDE THIS SHIT ANYMORE IN GAME...

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DistantBliss wrote:
Can we make a request for the overhaul of other past leagues as well now? If so, based on my experience starting in 1.3 i'd like:

- Abyss: seems fine as is; doesn't need progression and just randomly sometimes spawns good loot.
- Harbinger; could this be added like the incursions in 3.5?
- Legacy; not good for core i reckon
- Breach; could this be added like incursions in 3.5 as well?
- Essence; like incursion but only with screaming essence tier spawns. Essences currently only add clutter because of all the tier of which you only want to use the screaming+ tiers which hardly drop. Alternatively integrate it into niko's mine as encounters maybe?
- Prophecy; is already added : )
- Perandus; its mechanic was taken over by the artifacts chamber in Atzoatl, then that chamber was nerfed. Revert the nerf on that chamber a bit please...
- Talisman; i really liked it for some reason even though the corruption on every item made it pure rng and not satisfying i think. I'm not smart enough to think of a way to integrate this, but i want those mods back...
- Warbands and everything prior to that is already integrated in core and seems fine as is (not dominantly present, not too rare either) with the exception of;
- Invasion; there were some BS hardcore unfriendly bosses in there. I liked bomber crab (vaal DD) a lot; could this just go core like Anarchy (but only start in maps; maybe shaper made some mistakes and this is the result)?

If you read all this; thanks. If you have comments; lmk


My personal solution to reintroduce Talisman, would be to allow 5 of ANY sort, rather than different ones being required to activate the stone circle.

Warbands had a much cooler mechanic that hasn't been introduced to the main game (vaguely similar to Shaper and Elder influence, but on regular game zones IIRC).

Invasion introduced the vast randomness of enemies that appear in areas, prior to this you could know for certain which enemies would be in any given zone. I like your idea about tying the reason for the Invasion boss being there to Shaper, he is altering the landscape to suit his needs.
ROFL @ the people saying "you promised no Bestiary" They NEVER said it was NEVER going core. they said they had no plans to bring it core at that time. They went on to say that we would probably see it at a later date. Bestiary needed lots of changes to even think about making it core. From the looks of it, they have succeeded in making the changes needed to bring it core in a meaningful and useful way without all the headaches from the challenge league.

I love that it's going core. I can stop using a crap ton of alts on flask crafting. Thank you GGG :P
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Last edited by Smoknjoe24#5708 on Nov 21, 2018, 11:53:26 AM
Does this mean, they only come to Betrayal or do the masters in std also chance?

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