What don't you like about Grim Dawn

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Grim Dawn is an excellent single-player ARPG, that is easy to recommend though it has its flaws.

Edit: After going on the GD forums with its toxic community and having both my General Discussion and Feedback thread locked, I have come to the realisation that the flaws in this game are ultimately permanent and will never be addressed. As such, it is very hard to recommend now, so I have changed it to a thumbs down. Sorry Crate, but you did it to yourself.

Edit Edit: I've reverted back to a positive review because of a dev that kindly looked into the whole episode on the forums and sorted it out. The community is still toxic, but just don't go there and you will be fine.

Pros
+ Beautiful and varied artwork, even though the engine is starting to show its age.
+ Handcrafted world design where each cave and dungeon and setting is unique.
+ Memorable appropriate music, just the way a post-apocalyptic Victorian-era-inspired game should sound like.
+ Hybrid classes of the six available classes means a ton of options.
+ Investing Devotion points opens up further possibilities for each hybrid class.
+ Ability to re-spec Skill and Devotion points
+ Lore that you can read
+ Varied quests
+ Choices that matter and affect playthroughs
+ Reputation system with factions
+ Varied and good-looking equipment
+ New types of unique enemies
+ Deadly traps and unique boss encounters, with tactics and preparation needed.
+ Hardcore mode is hard (core).
+ Mods
+ Components and augments for the tinkerer and min-maxer in all of us.
+ Cheap and excellent value for money.


Cons
- Not HC (hardcore) friendly as it does not have second life passives, has spike damage and balance issues too. You will discover there are only some builds that are HC Ultimate viable.

- Loot system is antiquated and non-innovative and non-rewarding. Unacceptable in 2016. Look at Loot 2.0 with Diablo 3 RoS for an example of a rewarding loot system. 99% of the loot in Grim Dawn is worthless junk as you will discover. This is because there is no additional weighting to get a higher chance of items for either of your classes, nevermind your build. This problem is exacerbated by the rarer the items are, making legendary items for your class and also your build pretty much impossible to get. A simple change would be to at least give you an increased chance of items for either of your hybrid classes, where applicable. This would still mean you rarely get an upgrade as there are many build variations within classes, but at least we are getting closer to a rewarding loot system. Note: I have no problem with the drop rates of Epics and Legendaries, just that they should drop APPLICABLE equipment more often.

- Build defining legendaries should drop much earlier, as by the time you get them (lvl requirement 75 usually) you've done almost everything in the game.

- Few Epics (which you will mostly use even on Ultimate) define builds, just rather complement them a bit, possibly with a skill that is usually underwhelming.

- Farming and grinding is very tedious, as you have to create a new instance each time, travel to the boss, and then kill the boss in the same way each time.

- There is no end-game. Period. Let's not pretend the third time playing through the exact same content (Ultimate) is end-game. It's not. It's the same stuff except with possibly better loot. Apparently upcoming Crucible DLC will add some much needed end-game.

- Forced to level up through the same content 3 times. After doing the first few acts 20 times, you will want to shoot yourself in the head. You've memorised each quest, objective, boss tactic, quest dialogue, lore piece and story. Nothing surprises you anymore.

- Inability to re-spec Attributes and Mastery points. This completely defeats the whole purpose of experimenting with your build. It is completely unacceptable. Say you actually through some miracle got a Legendary set amulet for your class and build. It needs 100 more Spirit to equip though. What the hell? So you start fiddling with your optimal Skills and Devotions, scrounging for Spirit and %Spirit everywhere you can, and you still run up short. Good job Crate. Mastery points being permanent means you are very wary of changing your build too. I really struggle to understand this fundamental flaw in the game, I can't think of a single reason you can re-spec Skills and Devotions but not attributes or Mastery points.

- Local saves = cheating/hacking in multiplayer. And it also means you are ever so tempted to use a trainer, some of us have more willpower (or are just too lazy to go on dodgy sites to download one xd).

- No enchanting to roll off unwanted affixes. When you finally do get an upgrade it usually comes with 2-3 completely worthless affixes. Rolling these to more desirable ones by using materials should be possible.

- You will likely only get 200-300 hours before getting utterly bored and taking a long break from the game. Possibly forever.

Conclusion
Excellent ARPG already, but could potentially be truly great with some changes to loot system, enchanting, re-speccing etc.

Definitely worth the money. Buy it now.

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silentassasin47 wrote:

My other issue so far is handling resistances.

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鬼殺し wrote:

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kolyaboo wrote:

Honestly too many skills, too many keys. I prefer just 2 or 3. I think in GD my necromancer has like 7 keys? WTF?

Oh grow a pair...of extra hands. These guys handle it just fine!

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k1rage wrote:
Razor Naga FTW

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OblivionLordDio wrote:

Softcore doesn't increase in difficulty

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k1rage wrote:

I feels like slow motion PoE for the most part