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Greetings Exiles, i'm almost at the same state as Pandaroux, currently dual wands, arc in helm for clear and ball lightning in chest for bosses.

I'm a bit lost and don't understand what to aim for end game : tremor rod with 6L or something else ?

I'm doing T XI maps and it's ok, i think i need more HP.

I also have a big interrogation, i see nowhere mention about chaos res, is there a passive or something i missed ?

ATM i'm looking for a 6L loreweave, i dont' know if this should be my priority.

Thanks a lot for your help.
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BeeLz wrote:
This is the first non phys/melee char I've played in about 2 years and I'm not sure how to progress. I see these multimod sceptres for a couple of exalts and realize they are better but can't really quantify how much better they are and if I should save up for up for those or focus on a couple of other upgrades first. I've got about 2.5-3 exalts available for upgrades and because I don't really have a feel yet on what's best I would love some input.
I'm doing tier 9-12 maps and clearspeed feels ok, I do feel vulnerable when a lot of mobs suddenly spawn around me and can get into trouble on metamorphs that don't die fast enough. But can't really say it's because of my damage being too low, my survivability being too low or my playstyle.

Any pointers would be appreciated.
-I like Arc clear, Ice spear feels a bit clunky at times so I'm open to changing that for single target.
-Are my flasks good?
-I'm only using zealotry at the moment and use skitterbots on easy content.
-I don't feel like my cwdt-enfeeble-immortal call-phase run is doing much, are there any other/better alternatives?
-Any gems that could be replaced improved?
-For example to me my necklace looks pretty good but because it's been a while since I played and I'm not familiar with this build I have no idea if it actually is as good or if could possibly buy a massive upgrade for -1ex, same for my head, gloves, wand and jewels.

Cheers!


I also found Ice Spear to leave something lacking, especially once I got decent "Lighting as Extra Chaos Damage" on both of my wands. As a result, I swapped to Ball Lightning for single target to more consistently use one element and it made a world of difference. The overall damage number looks lower, but it hits multiple times and can melt/clear where needed that Arc just doesn't cut it completely. You can check my profile to see what I'm using there, though I'm sure I still have a bit of room to improve. That said, it's been enough to beat Awakener on level 8 a number of times.

I might be missing something, but where is the Phys Conversion from your glove enchant and Taste of Hate coming into play? You could probably swap both - and instead of a regular mana potion, I'd recommend Lavignas. You could probably swap your taste of hate to a quicksilver that removes curses for a QoL upgrade.

Also as I mentioned in my last post above this, I've found that having hat/amulet enchants along with jewels with "Increased Mine Throwing Speed %" has made a big difference for me.
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Oxycrest wrote:
Greetings Exiles, i'm almost at the same state as Pandaroux, currently dual wands, arc in helm for clear and ball lightning in chest for bosses.

I'm a bit lost and don't understand what to aim for end game : tremor rod with 6L or something else ?

I'm doing T XI maps and it's ok, i think i need more HP.

I also have a big interrogation, i see nowhere mention about chaos res, is there a passive or something i missed ?

ATM i'm looking for a 6L loreweave, i dont' know if this should be my priority.

Thanks a lot for your help.


I think what I just posted for Pandaroux is still relevant for you; I think the biggest damage upgrade you can have right now is your neck.

You should be able to find one with 23+ (t1) spell damage, life, and/or crit/crit multi.

As for survivability - Your health potions are two behind. They restore the same amount as better potions but in 3x the time. Try to get some Superior Eternal Health Potions. I did the same thing, and it makes a HUGE difference when you switch.

I'd also consider swapping your hybrid flask for a Lavignas Mana Potion as it helps a lot with MoM.

Likewise, there are a few tweaks you can make to your passives... even just at the beginning where you can go from the initial mine damage to the ele damage nodes below them.

And once you get a better amulet, you can annoint it with divine judgement for some ele damage/pen.
Thanks for your help, i'll try this tonight. I admit i totally neglected my flasks, i'll investigate it.

Thanks for the passive tips too.
Ok, I might be stupid but...

I'm still leveling, just got to act 6. When do I switch from pyroclast to ice spear?
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Oxycrest wrote:

ATM i'm looking for a 6L loreweave, i dont' know if this should be my priority.


Please don't. Honestly, Loreweave is a really bad choice for this build, imho.

Build is already super low on life, and choosing a pretty low-hp armour like Loreweave makes matters worse.


The max ressist are nice. But taking 12%less fire/lightning/cold damage doesn't do shit if you got less than 5k HP. It will still wreck you.

And it doesn't help against Physical/Chaos at all.


It's a Beginners Guide after all. Once you hit deep red maps it's time to move on and get more surviveability (life+chaos res). It's super painful playing the glasscannon version (dual wielding) after lvl90. I would not recommond.

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Schejian wrote:

It's a Beginners Guide after all. Once you hit deep red maps it's time to move on and get more surviveability (life+chaos res). It's super painful playing the glasscannon version (dual wielding) after lvl90. I would not recommond.



You think it's better to play with a shield ? I do not feel laking of damage actually, and i don't appreciate that much playing glasscanon, I prefer to be a bit tankier and DPS longer.
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Schejian wrote:




I'm newbie, but like your build. Can you explain how to use your chest gems? Also, do you think its better to use lightning penetration instead of normal added lightning damage? And which skillpoints you added on levels 90-95? Thanks
Last edited by DamianTaps#4998 on Jan 13, 2020, 4:15:22 PM
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DamianTaps wrote:


I'm newbie, but like your build. Can you explain how to use your chest gems? Also, do you think its better to use lightning penetration instead of normal added lightning damage? And which skillpoints you added on levels 90-95? Thanks


Oh, the chest gems are all wildcards. Socket whatever you want in them. It's up to your personal preference, none of them are needed.

I prefer to go with a increased duration smokemine for clearspeed.

SmokeMine+Flasks+Phaserun gives a very comfortable 190%movementspeed for mapping.

I'd recommond just going with a Kaom's Heart first (very cheap now).
Until you are comfortable that you don't die anymore. I only switched out from it once i could achieve around 5,8k HP without it.

Going lower HP lead to the occasional death for me, so I did take care to not fall under that. (Was 7k life with Kaoms, but missing the ~10%DPS from a dps Chest)



Last edited by Schejian#7203 on Jan 13, 2020, 4:33:07 PM
Hi all,
Its my first time playing Arc mine Saboteur and following this build has been great thus far. Seems like there's a lot of flexibility in gearing with many of you having variations from the guide.

I'm curious about changing the passive tree from the initial "mine and trap damage" to "elemental damage".
Will this have significant impact? Both seems the same to me.

Secondly is Call of Brotherhood a good ring for this build?
I'm quite confused with the possibilities

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dmzxls wrote:
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Oxycrest wrote:
Greetings Exiles, i'm almost at the same state as Pandaroux, currently dual wands, arc in helm for clear and ball lightning in chest for bosses.

I'm a bit lost and don't understand what to aim for end game : tremor rod with 6L or something else ?

I'm doing T XI maps and it's ok, i think i need more HP.

I also have a big interrogation, i see nowhere mention about chaos res, is there a passive or something i missed ?

ATM i'm looking for a 6L loreweave, i dont' know if this should be my priority.

Thanks a lot for your help.


I think what I just posted for Pandaroux is still relevant for you; I think the biggest damage upgrade you can have right now is your neck.

You should be able to find one with 23+ (t1) spell damage, life, and/or crit/crit multi.

As for survivability - Your health potions are two behind. They restore the same amount as better potions but in 3x the time. Try to get some Superior Eternal Health Potions. I did the same thing, and it makes a HUGE difference when you switch.

I'd also consider swapping your hybrid flask for a Lavignas Mana Potion as it helps a lot with MoM.

Likewise, there are a few tweaks you can make to your passives... even just at the beginning where you can go from the initial mine damage to the ele damage nodes below them.

And once you get a better amulet, you can annoint it with divine judgement for some ele damage/pen.

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