[3.15] Crimson Bow Gladiator, RoA + Puncture | Pure Bleed Build | All Content | In-depth

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BeastCC wrote:
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xXx_Kamikaze_xXx wrote:
First time of trying a bleed build. Feels pretty smooth after you get some good Gear. I tried to selfcraft all my Gear with Fossil (mostly jagged + pristine). The only item i bought was the explode chest and the bow. Crafted on my own a 450 pdps bow but got some money leftover and mirrored the currently #1 in league.

At the Moment I have like 11m-12.7m dps depending on the pride aura efffect after 4sec with perma Frenzy charges uptime.

https://pastebin.com/hzmwy4Pa


could go for even more dps with Cinderswallowa nd bottled faith flask, but it isn't necessary at this point.


Also tried to league start with this build ins ssf. Leveling was smooth on a 4 link, and mapping feels good in <T10 maps if you have a 6-Link setup for puncture and split arrow. wouldnt recommend to go for the red Tier maps until you got a elder bleed bow or cluster jewels for dps.

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Hi,

Based on your SSF experience, would you recommend this as a league starter?
I'm planning to go Champ (I hate dying) and was thinking to level with TR + Quill Rain -> HoA.

Would you strongly suggest to go split/RoA instead for leveling?

Thanks!



I'm very curious on your leveling experience but also the ceiling you did hit.


Hey mate, wouldn't really recommend it as a league starter. It's a rocky way till you get some dps going. Was lucky and farmed the 6 Link Bow card and got a 6 link for Bestiary with the right basetype.

I would only recommend to start with the build when you got an okayish elder bow and cluster jewels for the dps.
Thanks yeah I changed to Rain of Arrows and feels nicer than GMP



What gems can I socket to synergise with these gloves, if i have RoA in chest, and Puncture in bow/helm ?
Last edited by Valant#5676 on Jun 10, 2020, 4:58:17 PM
Question more global for various bleed users than concentrate on this exact build:
Do you guys think it would be easier to play bow or to go 2h/1h+shield variant as a gladiator league starter? Especially with the new slam skills around?

I am thinking to use Axe nodes for league start and transition to proper bow build when I get all the important pieces together (elder bow, ryslatha etc).

But RoA should be also pretty smooth leveling experience, I am so thrown apart lol. Cyclone + Crimson Dance looks like a breeze until maps, or even some of the new slam skills...



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Valant wrote:
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Thanks yeah I changed to Rain of Arrows and feels nicer than GMP



What gems can I socket to synergise with these gloves, if i have RoA in chest, and Puncture in bow/helm ?

Nothing to be fair. Best possible options is to socket RoA or Puncture inside it, so you have more gems sockets to use. Of course, it means you'll be using 5-link for clear or single target. With enough damage it shouldn't be too big of a problem tho.

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G0rr wrote:
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Question more global for various bleed users than concentrate on this exact build:
Do you guys think it would be easier to play bow or to go 2h/1h+shield variant as a gladiator league starter? Especially with the new slam skills around?

I am thinking to use Axe nodes for league start and transition to proper bow build when I get all the important pieces together (elder bow, ryslatha etc).

But RoA should be also pretty smooth leveling experience, I am so thrown apart lol. Cyclone + Crimson Dance looks like a breeze until maps, or even some of the new slam skills...

I don't have any knowledge on melee builds in general, so can't help you with the question. I can only point out that 3.11 patch notes are yet to be released. Current opinions can very easily change after we get our hands on all the balance changes.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3053600 - My Guides
Hi DankawSL

Firstly, thanks for the build

Can you comment a bit on yours vs mbxtreme's version ? I notice that the tree is completely opposite

mbxtreme PoB and Youtube https://pastebin.com/bwnJbJKJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V69UQbfG8zs

I am kinda following Kamikaze's version with 2x large clusters, but I can only get about 4.8k Life. Why is my life so low, and how can I get 7k Life ?

My PoB - https://pastebin.com/0CLx6j1D
Last edited by Valant#5676 on Jun 13, 2020, 11:41:29 AM
Great guide!

No massive nerfs to the build right?
And Enduring Cry should be much better, right?
@DankawSL
Will you have time to update this build for 3.11 before launch?
https://valid.x86.fr/egpm28
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TheOne320 wrote:
@DankawSL
Will you have time to update this build for 3.11 before launch?


What needs changing?
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CrazylikE wrote:
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TheOne320 wrote:
@DankawSL
Will you have time to update this build for 3.11 before launch?


What needs changing?

At least the PoB has to be updated to the new tree. He does not have to rework anything if nothing big changed.

Wind Dancer is also very good together with Kintsugi.
https://valid.x86.fr/egpm28
Last edited by TheOne320#5874 on Jun 17, 2020, 7:05:21 PM
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BeastCC wrote:
Great guide!

No massive nerfs to the build right?
And Enduring Cry should be much better, right?

From what i checked so far small damage nerf in exchange for Wind Dancer which is extremely good defensively for my version of the build. Overall, there's many minor changes around the tree but effectively it's more or less the same.

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TheOne320 wrote:
@DankawSL
Will you have time to update this build for 3.11 before launch?

Yes, absolutely. Scope of changes is very small. Tomorrow i'll get to work.

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Valant wrote:
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Hi DankawSL

Firstly, thanks for the build

Can you comment a bit on yours vs mbxtreme's version ? I notice that the tree is completely opposite

mbxtreme PoB and Youtube https://pastebin.com/bwnJbJKJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V69UQbfG8zs

I am kinda following Kamikaze's version with 2x large clusters, but I can only get about 4.8k Life. Why is my life so low, and how can I get 7k Life ?

My PoB - https://pastebin.com/0CLx6j1D

Just reminding that i don't do gear checks anymore, and second part of your comment is falling closely to it. Not to mention it's not my version of the build.

As for question about mbXtreme's version... it's basically the same thing as almost all other streamer bleed bow guides afaik. Slightly higher life, similar damage, focuses on armour as defensive mechanic instead of evasion (which i prefer personally). Going to right side allows for much smoother progression without any need for unique items too. That's about it. Other than that it simply fits my playstyle more, especially classic version.

What i am most disappointed about is mbXtreme claiming his version to be "beginner friendly", that's a lie. There's so many things in it that your average joe will not be able to get at that level. I could make an essay explaining why but that's just a waste of time, you didn't ask for it anyway.
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