{3.10} Speaker for the Dead | The Mass Minion Summoner | League Starter, Leveling Guide 💀
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Herc, do you have a POB for your current build with Triad Grip?
How are you running it? Just Smoke Mine, Phase Run, flasks, zoom zoom zoom while the minions kill everything in your wake? It seems like the only issue would be having to stop to loot! |
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Hi Hercanic, all,
I farmed/leveled up a bit (thanks for all the hints so far) and now have around 2 ex to spare. What would you recommend to upgrade next (aside from lvling up gems)? I managed to kill Hydra quite easily, however I feel like my single target DPS is lacking. Survivability is ok-ish, at least for mapping including T16s (random deaths aside): 4.2k HP + 1.7 k ES [Edit: Minotaur just kept 1-shotting me. Maybe I'm not as durable as I thought, lol] I'm using Frost Sentinels as spectres. Any help much appreciated!
Current gear
Thanks and best regards Last edited by tkwondave#1764 on Oct 29, 2019, 7:16:56 PM
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" I would suggest getting a 6 link vaal regalia for your next upgrade. Supporting your Spectres and also the Phantasms with faster projectiles is really nice. Look for one with high life and either + ES or % ES (might be hard to get life + an energy shield mod together) and a free prefix so you can craft on %life as % energy shield. That craft gives me almost 1000 Energy shield in my build You're still using a minion damage gem in your helmet so swap that out for melee phys or EDWA and for boss fights like UE you can swap out splash for the other one. Your damage should be more than fine once you get that 4th link in your helmet. Don't forget, we get 30% to all resistances just for having 10 minions alive (zombies, spectres, skitterbots + golem) so you have room to change your gear around as well. You're using storm brand to trigger EE so you don't need the lightning damage craft on your amulet. You could instead craft Minion movement speed, %increased maximum energy shield or +1 to minimum endurance charges (4% Physical Damage Reduction & 4% to all Elemental Resistances per Endurance Charge) You could also look for a ring with Curse enemies with level 5 frostbite on hit or get some corrupted gloves with elemental weakness on hit which will also give you more damage but can get expensive. Minotaur will one shot a lot of builds (especially with a damage mod) All end game fights in PoE are just knowing what you need to dodge, you will learn the fights if you do them enough. |
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Thanks for posting this build I have been using it as my base since the start of the league. I don't like the cyclone play style as much so I have been using storm brand to get my EE to proc until I switched to Triad grip. Spectral throw seems to do the job. I have found at a point the only thing that killed me was ground effects or degen type effects so I looked for a way to get a bit more ehp. I am currently using Glorious Vanity and I am sitting at 5543hp / 3205es in my hideout. My guardian is equipped with a Kingmaker, Belly of the beast, Helmet with -9% cold resist for enemies and Victario's Flight. Dropped the unending hunger as my clear speed is not an issue at this point. I am using frost sentinels. I tried the slave drivers and considered going for lightning triad grip because then I could get the carrion golem back, but i like the chill/freeze and the range on the sentinels. For blight maps I swap melee splash to skellies and multistrike to zombies. I have been able to basically roll through any content but will take any constructive criticism with the way I am built out. Not sure if I will level this build much further as I have started another, but when I switch back it feels like god mode. I may push to 97 but unlikely to go for 100. |
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" Cool! Interesting that the writer used a variant that... well, I hadn't even seen yet, with Stampede-Cyclone-CWC-Desecrate... |
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So I've seen people use Arakaali's Fang and I've got a question: how do you reliably summon those spiders? Most of the time for me the worms from Withering Jar get killed by my own minions.. How do you guys manage it? What's the secret?
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Just wanted to say thanks to Hercanic for this great build!
I played a necromancer in standard on and off but this is my first league, thanks to your build I leveled pretty fast and had minimal problems mapping and delving. After spending about 5 ex for gear upgrades I just managed my first ever shaper kill, deathless too! Planning uber elder next. I have some questions tho: - What gear should I upgrade next? I just spent 3.5 ex on the helm, 1.5 ex on the chest, 0.7 ex + 2 divine on the Doryani jewel but everything else is either self craft or bought below 20c. I have about 1 ex and 600c left to spend. - Should I change the Chest craft to +1 Skeleton/Zombies? I'll lose about 220 ES if so. - Any suggestions on passive tree and jewels? I unspec'ed EE recently because it seems most of my DPS is from Skeles - Should I swap summon Phantasms for spell echo/fire penetration? whenI fought red map elder I noticed they barely spawn the whole fight, changed to fire penetration for shaper but not sure if it made much difference. Here's my POB, a few notes: - The Doryani glorious vanity jewel is near the CI keystone, seed 1213, which also happens to change the strength notable to a 9% increased max life one. This gives me 6K HP and 4.9K ES (6.1K ES with spirit offering on) - Had to drop melee skills and fortify lately as my internet is not always stable - I use solar guard spectres POB Export
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" + Hircanic, isn't it more viable ,worth it more to have Minion Damage in that +3 minion gems helmet?rather than Melee damage? a 21/20 minion damage =53% dmg + 7.5%(from quality) yes?How isn't this better than Melee Damage ? Also @Hercanic what is that potentially 50 million DPS build?:O u had to ditch spectres & make it a Baron zombie build?:( Last edited by thegamingkage#0176 on Oct 30, 2019, 12:30:17 PM
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" Thanks a lot for your reply! I'll use that as an upgrade roadmap for now, much appreciated. Still - if anyone has additional input please let me know! Best Last edited by tkwondave#1764 on Oct 30, 2019, 3:38:17 PM
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" " " " https://pastebin.com/PPyZcTdM " Last response here @ tkwondave. Otherwise, yes, just as you described. Phase Run can stay up indefinitely if you're gaining Frenzy Charges, so Smoke Mine is only used for the movement buff when Phase Run is down. " Yeah, it was talked about here earlier in the league. In short, Stampede is convenient, but flasks still beat it, so it comes down to your personal preference. @ tkwondave:
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" " " " Aim for at least 5k Life and 3k ES. The more, the better. 10% Life as Extra ES prefix craft (Gravicius unveil) will net another ~1k+ ES. Physical Damage Reduction will help with Minotaur: +3 Minimum Endurance Charge crafts on your jewelry, Solaris Pantheon, Chaos Golem, Basalt Flask. His burrow deals a ton of damage, but he won't use if you stay within its minimum range (nearly melee range). if he does use it, sidestep, because it travels in a straight line. As long as he doesn't burrow, you should be able to kill him within several seconds. Remember you can pre-place your Skeletons before triggering Minotaur, and their Feeding Frenzy dash will allow them to jump right on top of him the moment he activates. @ xkuzanx:
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" " Soul Eater grants monsters, including Spectres, a powerful defensive bonus of 5% reduced damage taken per soul. It's something to keep in mind for helping Spectres stay alive. " Changing your chest craft to 10% Life as Extra ES (Gravicius unveil) will net another ~1k+ ES. " Check out my @ Dashbb response for AG gear. @ silas66:
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" " CwC Ball Lightning can kill them immediately. It also helps if your minions are preoccupied. Spiders can do more damage than Zombies, but yeah, they're a pain to maintain. @ Drakoturt:
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" " Congrats! =o) " I'd have recommended at least one LGoSH ring to mitigate the damage that bypasses ES from Glorious Vanity, but I see you are not using Ball Lightning. You're using a wand, but it's only giving you +1 and the speed craft. There's a lot of room for improvement there. Your rings as well. Crafting +2 to Minion Gems Wand " 10% of Life as Extra ES craft is best overall. It's worth another 1k ES. However, you're using Glorious Vanity, so you don't want to go above your total Life. " You can save 10 points by sacrificing the Melding cluster for Glorious Vanity. " I see you dropped Hatred, so your Skeletons are Phys with some Chaos (Spirit Offering), which means EE will only affect your Spectres. Without Ball Lightning or something similar while clearing, EE won't factor into your clear. " Spectres/Phantasms are our trash clearing skill. Rather than damage, priority should be on area coverage. When they wipe out all the white mobs, our damage-oriented Zombies can focus down tougher rares and magic packs. @ thegamingkage:
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" " It's the 2H Triad variant (+ some changes). It uses Carrion Golems (x3 @1.6M) and Zombies (x11 @1M) for clear, Skeletons (x12 @1.9M; Vaal Warriors x25 @1.7M, Archers x12 @433k, Casters x8 @230k) for bosses and multi-front battles. The total DPS it can leverage would be (4.8M + 11M + 22.8M + 42.5M + 5.2M + 1.8M =) 88.1M Shaper DPS. You could even push it higher. " Yes, in a manner of speaking. They are being used for Chieftains. Frenzy and Power Charges are worth ~75% more damage with Kingmaker AG. Carrion Golems are standing in for Spectres on clear, due to their fast leap and AOE cascade. They can also be used to generate Phantasms, including GMP and Faster Proj. I'll need to test before I can say what the best and most flexible approach is for clear. " No. Baron requires a different tree, jewels, and strength on gear. With 1200 Strength (=600 life): Baron would give 120% increased minion melee damage, +4 Zombies, and 20% life leech. Shaper's Touch gloves would give 240% increased ES. Geofri's Sanctuary body armour would give another 480 base ES. Definitely powerful, but in comparison much of these gains are offset by the loss of jewel sockets, minion clusters, INT, and item slots. Baron's unique and best benefit, though, is the life leech. Last edited by Hercanic#3982 on Dec 8, 2019, 9:43:18 PM
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