{3.10} Speaker for the Dead | The Mass Minion Summoner | League Starter, Leveling Guide 💀

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Hercanic wrote:
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Apsiu wrote:
@hercanic
Just did halls of the grandmasters as summoner. Hardest thing in poe so far as a summoner.

Congrats! I just picked this up for 120c to try out my Infernal Skitterbots idea.

If the T value on the wiki was accurate, Skitterbots should melt through Grandmasters several times better than Scorching Ray.

Isnt damage from skitter bots lowered in hogm too? I mean isnt it scaled down like other minion damage?
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Apsiu wrote:
Isnt damage from skitter bots lowered in hogm too? I mean isnt it scaled down like other minion damage?

Minions as a group do not have any special scaling, they fall under the same Damage divided by Time formula as any other skill.

Certain listed skills and support gems have further damage penalties, like GMP, since in PvP it'll make the skill much harder to dodge. In 3.7, Spectral Spiders were singled out and dropped by a whopping 70% damage, probably because of how fast and immortal they are.

But there is no mention of Skitterbot PvP scaling in the 3.8 patch notes. They don't deal any damage themselves, after all.

I've confirmed the 15 sec T value for Infernal Legion is in the 3.8 patch notes, so it should in fact be accurate.

I also noticed Scorching Ray was actually PvP nerfed in 3.8, with its T value dropping to 0.2 from 0.5. No wonder what I calculated wasn't as high as I expected. Before 3.8, its damage would have been:

(72,548 / 75) ^ 0.55 * 75 = 3,289 PvP DPS instead of 2,178. A loss of 51% more damage. This was probably done because of the new Fire DoT Multiplier added in 3.8.
Last edited by Hercanic on Oct 12, 2019, 4:43:56 AM
holy fuck I am so confused now

I'm dropping this build
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gxtro2002 wrote:
I'm dropping this build


Why?
@Hercanic, once again thanks for creating this build and the constant support to improve this awesome build. I just reached level 98 today, my highest so far in POE. Since the build is so balanced in both defensive with cyclone/cwc/Des/spirit offering and attacking with various types of minions, I may try to push further this league if time allows.

My 2c on type of Spectres. I've only tried 2 spectres so far: Frost sentinel and Slave drivers. Frost sentinel is extremely balanced for mapping in open spaces/ maps with ele reflect thanks to their high HP and constant ES recover from my offering/decent damage for bosses (this is where skeletons shine). Slave drivers deliver awesome damage for bossing, average speed for mapping. The biggest problem I had with slave drivers was their low HP. My recovery ain't quick enough to save their butts in ele reflect maps and certain bosses(Uber Atziri). In the end, Frost Sentinel remains my first choice for Spectres.

One of the biggest problems I have right now is probably with Chaos damage which bypass ES eventhough I have my shield up almost permanently(well up to stack of 80 in delve). Our build isn't made to be immuned to Chaos, that's why I'm trying to stack up as much Chaos resistance as possible. Every death as this level is pretty heart breaking if I'm being honest. Damage is not a big deal for me as this stage (I can try to run lab for the right helm enchant). Hopefully you guys can help me improve my defend!!
Last edited by monkiekig on Oct 13, 2019, 4:33:11 AM
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monkiekig wrote:
@Hercanic, once again thanks for creating this build and the constant support to improve this awesome build. I just reached level 98 today, my highest so far in POE. Since the build is so balanced in both defensive with cyclone/cwc/Des/spirit offering and attacking with various types of minions, I may try to push further this league if time allows.

My 2c on type of Spectres. I've only tried 2 spectres so far: Frost sentinel and Slave drivers. Frost sentinel is extremely balanced for mapping in open spaces/ maps with ele reflect thanks to their high HP and constant ES recover from my offering/decent damage for bosses (this is where skeletons shine). Slave drivers deliver awesome damage for bossing, average speed for mapping. The biggest problem I had with slave drivers was their low HP. My recovery ain't quick enough to save their butts in ele reflect maps and certain bosses(Uber Atziri). In the end, Frost Sentinel remains my first choice for Spectres.

One of the biggest problems I have right now is probably with Chaos damage which bypass ES eventhough I have my shield up almost permanently(well up to stack of 80 in delve). Our build isn't made to be immuned to Chaos, that's why I'm trying to stack up as much Chaos resistance as possible. Every death as this level is pretty heart breaking if I'm being honest. Damage is not a big deal for me as this stage (I can try to run lab for the right helm enchant). Hopefully you guys can help me improve my defend!!
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biggest problems I have right now is probably with Chaos damage which bypass ES

I lucked out and got a corrupted T16 Vaal Temple as a Zana mission. Finally, I could unlock it on the Atlas for free! Yay! First few steps I take and the game lags due to asset loading, then I'm dead with full ES. The Essence Drain Rogue Exile was just behind the first archway, laughing. It was a Don't Leave or Die mission, too. =o[

  • Amethyst Flask: +35% chaos resistance.

  • Cleansed Thoughts anointment (Golden, Azure, Clear): Chaos Resistance is doubled. You'd only need a positive 38% chaos res (98% total) to then reach 75% with this anointment. Purity of Flesh cluster gives us 20%, Charity gives 11%. So you'd need another 67% on other gear, or two pieces with at least 34%.

  • Corrupted Energy jewel: Half of chaos damage does not bypass ES if you have 5 corrupted items equipped, but allows half of Physical Damage to bypass ES.

  • The Golden Rule jewel: Up to +100% chaos resistance for inflicting poisons. Ball Lightning, Poison Support (elder glove mod), jewel with Chaos Damage added to Spells, Shaper ring with LGoSH, ES on Hit Watcher's Eye.

  • Circle of Nostalgia ring: 13+23+43= +79% chaos resistance, but must use Herald of Agony for that last 43%.

  • Esh's Visage shield: Chaos Damage does not bypass ES when not on Low Life or Low Mana. Would either need to drop an aura so you have at least 36% mana free, or use an Aul's Uprising amulet to make it free.

  • Shavronne's Wrappings: Chaos Damage does not bypass ES.

  • Solaris Lorica: Chaos Damage does not bypass ES, and 25% reduced Chaos Damage taken over time. No life or ES, though.

  • Coruscating Elixir: During flask effect, Chaos Damage does not bypass ES. But it drops your life down to 1, so too risky without at least 5k+ ES.

  • More life recovery: Stone Golem, Holy Relic, Life Gain on Hit
Last edited by Hercanic on Oct 13, 2019, 6:22:19 AM
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monkiekig wrote:
@Hercanic, once again thanks for creating this build and the constant support to improve this awesome build. I just reached level 98 today, my highest so far in POE. Since the build is so balanced in both defensive with cyclone/cwc/Des/spirit offering and attacking with various types of minions, I may try to push further this league if time allows.

My 2c on type of Spectres. I've only tried 2 spectres so far: Frost sentinel and Slave drivers. Frost sentinel is extremely balanced for mapping in open spaces/ maps with ele reflect thanks to their high HP and constant ES recover from my offering/decent damage for bosses (this is where skeletons shine). Slave drivers deliver awesome damage for bossing, average speed for mapping. The biggest problem I had with slave drivers was their low HP. My recovery ain't quick enough to save their butts in ele reflect maps and certain bosses(Uber Atziri). In the end, Frost Sentinel remains my first choice for Spectres.

One of the biggest problems I have right now is probably with Chaos damage which bypass ES eventhough I have my shield up almost permanently(well up to stack of 80 in delve). Our build isn't made to be immuned to Chaos, that's why I'm trying to stack up as much Chaos resistance as possible. Every death as this level is pretty heart breaking if I'm being honest. Damage is not a big deal for me as this stage (I can try to run lab for the right helm enchant). Hopefully you guys can help me improve my defend!!


How are you procing EE?
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banthom wrote:


How are you procing EE?

He use Cyclone and Flame Dash on mob packs and bosses.
Not much need in EE during map clear.
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Singrave wrote:
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banthom wrote:


How are you procing EE?

He use Cyclone and Flame Dash on mob packs and bosses.
Not much need in EE during map clear.


I have a jewel with added fire damage for cyclone spamming and EE proc as well lol.

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