[3.6] Tahreyn's 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable

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SuperBurgers wrote:
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Tahreyn wrote:

I checked over your char again and noticed a thing. I think that you probably should replace Withering Touch with Faster Attacks in your cyclone setup


Not a bad idea I might try, though for now I'll skip Uber Elder. I think cyclone just doesn't suit me there :) I find it very hard to see the ground degen so it's an annoying fight for me if I don't have very high DPS and movement control.

You asked the other poster about the guide, I think it is great too. I just see some minor things missing that I've seen in other guides, so up to you if you think they are important.

1) Providing example trade site search links can help.
2) Crafting guides for gear - in this case it seems to be mostly fossil crafting and we have one example in the tips and some more in the comments but these are always helpful for newer players.
3) Priority on 20 quality (and which we can skip) and 21/20 gems. Can be discovered by looking through the stats but saving time is nice.

The cyclone playstyle will hopefully feel a lot smoother with the 3.7. patch. So far it looks very promising, yet we'll have to wait and see.

Thanks. I'll think about adding a crafting segment to chapter 4 with some short guidelines on how to craft for each rare slot.

Were you thinking of search links for all items or only the ones that has more specific affixes such as the gloves and rare jewels?

When it comes to 20/20 gems I usually always do the 20/0 + 1 gcp recipe as soon as they hit 20, with the one exception of the first main skill gem if it's my league starter.

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jefftea17 wrote:

I cannot think of anything to add to your guide. Whenever I had questions I would re-read the guide and search for anything that I might have overlooked. The "Gear Priorities" section helped me to set goals and stay focused. It all worked out great for me.

Thanks again!

Cheers, thanks for your feedback.
Builds:
[3.6] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
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Tahreyn wrote:

Were you thinking of search links for all items or only the ones that has more specific affixes such as the gloves and rare jewels?


I think the more complicated ones like gloves or jewels where it's "definitely one or more of these affixes, and then as many of these as possible" is most helpful. I set up some queries with a lot of skills on the gloves for example, but might have missed one.

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Tahreyn wrote:

When it comes to 20/20 gems I usually always do the 20/0 + 1 gcp recipe as soon as they hit 20, with the one exception of the first main skill gem if it's my league starter.


I used to do that, but it seemed that bumping my gems to 20Q via gcps and then levelling and selling a fresh qualitied winter orb (for example) I would come out ahead. Not too sure though, gcps cost a lot at league start and avoiding trade is its own benefit.
Here's the new Gladiator:
https://ibb.co/D7WzDWn


What do you think will change from this build?
Last edited by givemelight#4275 on Jun 1, 2019, 9:45:03 AM
my concern is that AOE from HoA might be got nerfed in 3.7.
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givemelight wrote:
Here's the new Gladiator:
https://ibb.co/D7WzDWn


What do you think will change from this build?

If Blood/Sand stance is worth incorporating then the last ascendancy point might go for the new node and it's increased movement & attack speed. You'd need to get blind from somewhere else though, but that can be managed in that case. Besides from that potential change it doesn't really do anything major. -4% increased attack speed, but that doesn't really do much at all for us.

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TxE4GL3k wrote:
my concern is that AOE from HoA might be got nerfed in 3.7.

I don't think that they'll do any changes to HoAg actually, but we'll have to wait and see until they release the patch notes.
Builds:
[3.6] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
From the dev manifesto that was posted recently:
"Herald of Agony has had its minion damage per Virulence reduced, as the skill provided a huge amount of power for very little passive investment."

Does anyone know enough details to make a call on if that will kill this build? I had planned on playing it again in 3.7.
Wait for Path Note. I hope this not kill Agony Gladiator.
Last edited by michalkoz#3356 on Jun 3, 2019, 11:47:18 PM
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Milamber9 wrote:
From the dev manifesto that was posted recently:
"Herald of Agony has had its minion damage per Virulence reduced, as the skill provided a huge amount of power for very little passive investment."

Does anyone know enough details to make a call on if that will kill this build? I had planned on playing it again in 3.7.

Unless they really gut it it hopefully shouldn't reduce the damage by too much, you'll might want to get some extra minion dmg nodes or prioritise minion damage on your weapon though.
Builds:
[3.6] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
RIP :(
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oh crap, reducing the Crawlers damage per Virulence is like worst case.
we have to see the numbers, but i doubt the build can survive if the dps gets gutted significantly.
trash mobs will die regardless, but fights like Uber Elder and Shaper require a certain damage output

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