3.4 Holy Shepherd-Dominating Blow+HoP-Shaper&Uber Atziri down (Videos)

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kilgorek wrote:

Already done that some days ago, here is the topic on Bug reports forum

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2239678

AND TODAY I have finally got the answer which is strange? I think I will post the video from this thread.

Even tho you cant spawn sentinels of purity , you should at least spawn dom blow sentinels with hits...or did i understand his explanation wrong?
And yes, link him the video ..maybe it will stand as additional evidence

I have already edited my previous post.
Check for the explanation below.

hint: Madness Propagator

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kilgorek wrote:

I have already edited my previous post.
Check for the explanation below.

hint: Madness Propagator

Spoiler

This fucker is a NORMAL rarity mob...

Must be to early in the morning, not even I noticed, or thinked about that :))

If you are interested in Uber kill with dom blow here it is.
the difference is that he is playing Summoner class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZL8bquvXNw

his build: https://pastebin.com/niuAThDX

as you can see its very random. One thing he has and it's a good idea - hard-hitting spectres with phys dmg. They can kill propagators even when he has ero sentinels + he went allllll the way to phys dmg wheel to hit hard.

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kilgorek wrote:

If you are interested in Uber kill with dom blow here it is.
the difference is that he is playing Summoner class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZL8bquvXNw

his build: https://pastebin.com/niuAThDX

as you can see its very random. One thing he has and it's a good idea - hard-hitting spectres with phys dmg. They can kill propagators even when he has ero sentinels + he went allllll the way to phys dmg wheel to hit hard.

The main thing is chosing the right spectres, that have pure phys scaling and fast-hard hitting attacks to be able to scale with jewels.
I'm sure a pure phys spectre build would work out great, if you make that build around spectres, not HoP or Dom Blow minions. Just let dom blow minions and HoP minions be a boss bonus damage and just clear with spectres.
Just speculating here, but you could go with 5 phys spectres (that never die, taking necro ascendancy with spectre life and damage) and just run around maps killing everything with shield charge as main target focus.

This should really be addressed and thought throu...could actually be something great ...

He did sort of a hybrid there i think , i dont really like mixing things up ,it's either a spectre build either a dom blow build ...not both ...

@kilgorek
I dont understand the answer of GGG.
He says, you can't spawn Sentinel with DB on a Madness Propagators.
But if it's a normal monster, why it's work with worms, other normal monster, etc ... ?

Well it works with regular mobs because you kill them almost instantly and then get Sentinels ON KILL

Madness Propagators are normal rarity mobs with a shitton of energy shield and HP. You cannot proc on them with HoP (20% chance) and DomBlow (10% chance) because it works only on Unique mobs. In order to proc you need to kill them just like you kill worms from your flask :)

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kilgorek wrote:

Well it works with regular mobs because you kill them almost instantly and then get Sentinels ON KILL

Madness Propagators are normal rarity mobs with a shitton of energy shield and HP. You cannot proc on them with HoP (20% chance) and DomBlow (10% chance) because it works only on Unique mobs. In order to proc you need to kill them just like you kill worms from your flask :)

Maybe a dumb idea, but a quick thought. What if for that fight you used convocation (not linked with CWDT), and generated sentinels on shaper/elder, then quickly ran/charged over to a propagator and "bombed" them by dropping the sentinels on them with convocation?

Another note is that the longer the fight goes, the more propagators spawn. So in theory, with "infinite" dps, you could get to the point where you push them nearly instantly, and only have to deal with a small number of propagators.

Ultimately though, the low HP and squishiness of the sentinels seems to be a problem on that fight. I remember doing that fight on my golemancer and laughing at the free kill, because golems are IMMUNE to elemental damage via an elementalist ascendency (and by extension, reflects, which makes the build hilariously OP for clearing all map mods and uber atziri), and basically everything dangerous on that fight is elemental damage (balls are cold, shaper spikes are cold, beam is hybrid fire/cold/lightning).

I am currently building the character (bought all the gear but only started leveling it last night, so i'm only like 35). I currently spent about ~25 exalts on the gear, so it's not budget, but also not GG expensive. I made a few tweaks to the tree and gearing, so I'm curious to see how it'll work out.

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kilgorek wrote:

Madness Propagators are normal rarity mobs with a shitton of energy shield and HP.
You cannot proc on them with HoP (20% chance) and DomBlow (10% chance) because it works only on Unique mobs.

I dont really understand.

When you kill a normal mob, we can create normal sentinels.
We should be able to create sentinels whatever the life of normal mobs.
That MP have a lot of life should not change anything, right ?

10% or 20% chance is just for rare or unique monster.

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Xyrm wrote:

Ultimately though, the low HP and squishiness of the sentinels seems to be a problem on that fight.

I think if we take life for minions and leech life, it will be better.
May be witch/necro is better, because we get life and damage for minions.
And we get skill effect duration with the necro, not bad for our build.