Why do people get vaccines? Don't they research the ingredients?

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

It's just that even if 100% of current autism is vaccine-caused — an outrageous claim if true — vaccinating children would still be worth it. You'd need harder drawbacks than that to outweigh the benefits, and quite frankly there's no way such severe drawbacks could be covered up.

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erdelyii wrote:

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Boem wrote:

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erdelyii wrote:

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However what exactly?

I'm not sure what your trying to point out.

Give me your angle and how it relates to my post, because i find the "viruses do better the higher your population density is" quite self explenatory.

I'm not seeing it, or taking my assumptions for granted, sorry.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

Well sure, but i'm not sure if we should glorify the hunter gatherer life-style?

I don't imagine life outside of settlements was that much merrier.

And if an infection struck, nobody would have know and would have simply wiped out your entire tribe.

If lucky, the mountain you lived on would be referred to as "the horrible mountain of red DEATH" by all neighboring tribes.

Peace,

-Boem-

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...And now for the numbers. Caetano-Anolles and Nasir analyzed the protein folds of 5,080 organisms—3,460 viruses and 1,620 cells from other organisms representing every branch of the tree of life. What they found was huge: 442 protein folds were shared between cells and viruses along with 66 folds that were unique to viruses. What this indicates then, is a branching of some kind.

It suggests that viruses were not simply shed genetic material of cells, but shared unique properties with cells (and thus were living) and eventually evolved as separate entities. “We are now able to build truly universal trees of life,” says Caetano-Anolles, “that describe the origin and diversification of organisms and viruses.”

These findings provide some of the strongest evidence yet that viruses are indeed living. “The mere fact of the existence of a universal biology unifying viruses and cells now justifies the construction of a Tree of Life that embraces viruses side by side with cells.” says Caetano-Anolles. The interesting thing about these results is that they indicate that viruses must have diversified from ancient cells by a process called reductive evolution, where organisms simplify instead of becoming more complex. Viruses were likely “more cellular in nature and existed in the form of primitive cells,” explains Nasir. The ancient cells that these primordial viruses resided in were those of the last universal common ancestor that preceded diversified life about 2.45 billion years ago.

At some point, the genomes of these ancient viral cells were reduced or eliminated, to the point where they lost their cellular nature and became modern viruses. Nasir says that “viruses restore their 'cellular' existence today when they enter and take control of any cell.” When an infected cell spits out new viruses, it is likely very much like those ancient cells making primitive viruses. “Thus,” Nasir concludes, “in the beginning, virus plus cell existed as a unit. Today, they are split but can restore their association upon viral infection of a cell.”