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I didn't play in 3.8 so cant compare to "better version" but so far, this build works great for me :) I prefer playing with Convocation, it makes clearing map less awkward.

What would you recommend to invest into to progress easily into red maps? So far Im at tier 5-6 and I pretty much one shot bosses and metamorphs

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agat wrote:

Oh my fucking gosh! It's real. No 6th spectre and wiki states max number of spectres from the gem is 3 https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Raise_Spectre#Gem_level_progression
The only reason I started spectres again was to craft 2H for 6 spectres. So much disappointment

Looks like GGG nerfed it without saying anything. Nice.

Hey, I play this build in ssf and just wanted to say i used feeding frenzy as my 5link and the clearspeed is so much better. Without it the spectres often just run around.
Not sure how it will be when i will get deathmark as my 6th link but i will keep it like this for now.

Have a great day

Hi. I can see that zombies are still used by most player, and they are still good. Any tought on getting some zombies together with the spectres?

PS: This is my first time playing summoner so I don't know whats good for this build.

Edit: Ty for the fast POB. I have already done the changes.

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Odd_the_king wrote:

Hi. I can see that zombies are still used by most player, and they are still good. Any tought on getting some zombies together with the spectres?

PS: This is my first time playing summoner so I don't know whats good for this build.

I think many players will be stuck in low tier mapping for a long time because of the new Atlas system. So for white maps, zombies are perfectly fine. They might also be good for yellow map.

It might be a while before we know if they are fine in red maps and endgame bossing.

I'll update the build to include them again.

Thank you for the fast reply.

I have a few additional question for the wand & Shield build.

1. On the wand it's a note "must not have 'adds x lighting damage to spells'"
- Is this also true for other items or only wand?
- Is it safe to have cold, fire and chaos damage to spells?

2. Armageddon Brand is used to apply Elemental Equilibrium. Am I supposed to see the buff if its triggered? I am not used to EE builds.
EDIT: Read FAQ: " pink circles under monsters"

3. What is the normal rotation of skills?
a) Shield charge into/close to packs and use convocation
b) Use Armageddon brand on packs/bosses. Is it neccessary to use it 3 times? Se question 2 also.
c) Vaal Summon skeletons on bosses
d) Bone armour
e) Bone/flesh offering - only for tougher content? Its so many skills to use :)

a and b for "normal" map clearing? The rest when needed?

4. For slave drivers in the main guide it does not say you can use IAoE gem for maps, it that because conc is fine for maps? But better for bosses so gem swap is not necessary?

I reached maps very recently, and boy are my spectres very bad even in a 5 link. Took me ages to clear maps because of only having 3 spectres and their AI seems pretty weird, just not enough AoE clear. The zombies did no damage when I used the setup you have in the OP.

I swapped the gems a bit and I'm doing 5l zombies + 4l spectre and now I suddenly breeze through yellow maps one hitting everything and killing bosses very fast. My gear is only resistance cap --> get as much life as possible which costs a few chaos.

We'll see when the damage from zombies fall off, but from my short experience, zombies is the way to go if ur a league starter with no currency.

And Vaal skeletons for bosses.

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kayella wrote:

15 DEC:
W&S build updated with player feedback.
- Raise Zombie replaces Animale Guardian in 4L
- Feeding Freezy moved to Spectre 6L
- Minion Damage replaces Feeding Frenzing in 4L

PoB:https://pastebin.com/UUz1EdjT

much better :)

So I decided to test a few things and loaded my 3.8 SD summoner on normal and did a few maps. Lvl 94 with almost all gems 20/20, almost fully loaded char.

Having 3 spectres instead of 4 seems completely fine. Still amazing clear speed and damage on 6 link.

Then I removed Feeding Frenzy from RS, and also my Carrion Golem - clear speed and smoothness decreased significantly. Then removed Victario's - another drop in clear speed.
Last 2 things removed Unending Hunger and Flesh Offering - and my summoner started to look like in 3.9 - completely useless :)


So I probably start changing my build back to 3.8 version, though not sure if Necro Aegis & Victario's are necessary.

No way ill get 4 spectres this league, started that build on friday and now (level 73) im thinking to reroll another class... I wont get enough currency for this build to work for me, the prices are insane. is this build able to switch to skeles or zombies? or should i just drop the summoner completely?