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Yeah I got that but I don't see any changes that would change the configuration of the pob unless I'm missing something.

Here's my POB: https://pastebin.com/N4sGT57n

590k DPS (638k DPS if you're accounting for Kingmaker and Divergent Predator buffs - there's a custom jewel called KINGMAKER that you can activate to the right of the Shaper node if you want).

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setissleeping wrote:

Here's my POB: https://pastebin.com/N4sGT57n

590k DPS (638k DPS if you're accounting for Kingmaker and Divergent Predator buffs - there's a custom jewel called KINGMAKER that you can activate to the right of the Shaper node if you want).

As I suspected you didn't have boss set as Sirus :D
Ignoring that, you would have even more if you enable Haste.

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Buggez wrote:

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setissleeping wrote:

Here's my POB: https://pastebin.com/N4sGT57n

590k DPS (638k DPS if you're accounting for Kingmaker and Divergent Predator buffs - there's a custom jewel called KINGMAKER that you can activate to the right of the Shaper node if you want).

As I suspected you didn't have boss set as Sirus :D
Ignoring that, you would have even more if you enable Haste.

Ah, didn’t notice. I use Vaal Haste instead of Haste :P
I don't understand why you would set that in the configuration as you're not always fighting Sirus. (So yes, 401k DPS without Custom Jewel, 433k with)

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Buggez wrote:

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setissleeping wrote:

As I suspected you didn't have boss set as Sirus :D
Ignoring that, you would have even more if you enable Haste.

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setissleeping wrote:

I don't understand why you would set that in the configuration as you're not always fighting Sirus. (So yes, 401k DPS without Custom Jewel, 433k with)

It's kinda weird because most of the time, you don't fight endgame bosses :P But somehow it's the normal way to give POB with 'Sirus' setting. I think most build guides are like that even if they are not boss killer builds......

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Smile_for_the_Camera wrote:

In the spectre and spiders build, it mentions the use of a ghastly eye jewel with added chaos damage if I were to go SO. My question is, what is the stat line supposed to read? Is it "minions deal x to x additional chaos damage" or is it a different stat line cause I saw different ones.

Basically, I'm just confused on the difference between add and additional.

Like this:


You need added chaos damage for anomalous VP to proc poison (because 100% cold conversion).

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kayella wrote:

It's kinda weird because most of the time, you don't fight endgame bosses :P But somehow it's the normal way to give POB with 'Sirus' setting. I think most build guides are like that even if they are not boss killer builds......

It makes sense honestly, we used to calculate things with Shaper DPS instead of just normal DPS. Now the endgame boss is Sirus so that’s the new config.

I’ve also heard that the POB DPS of SO is per projectile... so is it safe to assume that maximum DPS (if all proj. Hit) would be (Projectile DPS * Number of projectiles * Number of spectres)? Has anyone been able to figure that out?

EDIT: Looks like 13 million Sirus DPS with shotgunning (all proj. hitting)... probably not accurate.

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setissleeping wrote:

Has anyone been able to figure that out?

Deadandlivin did a big test at end of last league and posted his result:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3077446#p23977919




By the way, did you check out CC HoP? It uses the same build mechanics as S&S but scales higher. I spent about 50ex this league and HoP is at 7.5M. But 110ex investment will hit 12M+ maybe.

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setissleeping wrote:

League started with Kay’s spider + spectre build, carried me to red maps and then transitioned into pure spectres for end-game dps. About 110~ ex later I’m currently sitting at 615k dps in PoB

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Valolrak wrote:

I just finished 20 wave simulacrum deathless, with your original Pure Spectre POB, but wave 20 was rough. Bone Offering and Feast of Flesh really helps survivability, but three out of five SO's and Carrion Golem died to Kosos. The two remaining + Culling Strike managed to bring him down anyway. My AG was down around 25% health at the most. Having a Divergent AG gem with more life helps.

Oh nice! Actually I haven't tested the current PS build with Sim20. I thought SO will have a bit of trouble because their HP is a bit low.

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morpheus45 wrote:

But I can't understand why I should use Triad Grip Gloves which let minions ignite enemies and otherwise a helmet with 'Minion hits can only kill ignited enemies'.

Triad grip gives chance to ignite, but still the minions need to do fire damage to proc ignite.

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kayella wrote:

Deadandlivin did a big test at end of last league and posted his result:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3077446#p23977919


By the way, did you check out CC HoP? It uses the same build mechanics as S&S but scales higher. I spent about 50ex this league and HoP is at 7.5M. But 110ex investment will hit 12M+ maybe.

I'll have to check that out, I'm really interested. CC HoP is cold carrion + herald of purity? I haven't had the time to look at any other builds, been focusing really hard on my pure spectre but I'll definitely check that out soon.

I sort of didn't like S&S as I hit red maps (probably cause of low investment still in early league) cause I don't like going into maps and having to spawn my mobs for them to start killing stuff... also the fact that my spectres weren't able to kill anything only my spiders also was a deterrent for me on keeping that build. I know Writhing Jar helps a lot but 1 flask slot just to spawn spiders is just not my thing haha, I enjoyed the mechanic when I played Dancing Duo like 5 or 6 leagues back.

Sim20 with pure spectre SO's is great, all the mobs around you are taunted/blinded most of the time but have to be careful of explosions, and all you have to do for the 2 bosses is cast convocation next to them and the SO's will nuke them.