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Valolrak wrote:
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kayella wrote:
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granddaddy69 wrote:
Any way to upgrade further from pure spectres after you've done everything?


Next step is changing spectres to 7L helmet (15ex) -> 8L helmet/9L (130ex, 1 mirror).

DPS for SO dagger: 310k -> 420k -> 548k



I did a POB experiment with these helmets (Why are they called 7/8 L btw? It seems rather 6/7 to me, unless +1 to socketed gems counts as a pseudo-link..
However, I do not get anywhere near these damage boosts. The replacement of Vaal Haste with Bonechill really hurts the damage.

My current build: https://pastebin.com/4xbMRCyx
DPS: 333,059
Kay's Pure Spectre: https://pastebin.com/JgkQDMny (as Kay has posted, but with Awakened GMP re-enabled, it was disabled)
DPS: 343,073
POB experiment with 6/7-L Bone Helmet: https://pastebin.com/7NqQMbbe
6L helmet: 205,486
7L helmet: 328,027

So I must be missing something crucial in the POB experiment. I did not change the skill tree from the original POB. Until I figure out what that is, I see no need to try a 6-L helmet, which I can afford at the moment.

Do not worry, exiles, I do not expect anyone to look into these, but I will keep searching for what I am missing the POB experiment.

So the only upgrades I may decide to get are more life on rings, shield, boots, amulet, and finetune jewels with slightly more damage. There is no reason to end the league with any currency left, and currency is coming in fast when running juiced T16 maps, which this build melts.


If you figure it out, please post. I'm in the same boat as you. I'm always told to go for the helmet upgrade, but when put in POB, it doesn't seem worth it. I just thought I was doing something wrong, but I don't want to dump money into something that isn't an upgrade.
Last edited by Kymberlee#6858 on May 24, 2021, 2:29:07 PM
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miguetud wrote:
Hi all, thnx for sharing this build, is my first league anyone can look and try help how improve my dmg.
Thx

PoB
https://pastebin.com/FjZLwPrP

Same story as the guy I replied to on the previous page. You already have a pretty high dps but your configuration is wrong on the pob you linked.
If you get a +1 wand that has 50%+ minion damage and 15%+ minion attack speed you are already gonna have more dps than Kay's pob.

Hi guys, just wondering if:

20% / 32% increased effect - frostbite curse on a ring makes huge dps difference?
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Kymberlee wrote:
If you figure it out, please post. I'm in the same boat as you. I'm always told to go for the helmet upgrade, but when put in POB, it doesn't seem worth it. I just thought I was doing something wrong, but I don't want to dump money into something that isn't an upgrade.

Hi Kymberlee: I am at a loss still, why those seemingly amazing helmets do not translate to POB damage improvement. With that said, Kay's Pure Spectre build with Diadem has great damage already.

Finally I beat Sirus for the first time, after fumbling two attempts from lack of practice and inability to see what's on screen. Once the floating phases were over, and I was able to survive the one-shot meteor rain, meteor maze, and DIE beam, my SO's took care of him in seconds. Sadly, nothing of note whatsoever dropped, not even an Ivory Watchstone. But I got another challenge completed!


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Valolrak wrote:
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Kymberlee wrote:
If you figure it out, please post. I'm in the same boat as you. I'm always told to go for the helmet upgrade, but when put in POB, it doesn't seem worth it. I just thought I was doing something wrong, but I don't want to dump money into something that isn't an upgrade.

Hi Kymberlee: I am at a loss still, why those seemingly amazing helmets do not translate to POB damage improvement. With that said, Kay's Pure Spectre build with Diadem has great damage already.

Finally I beat Sirus for the first time, after fumbling two attempts from lack of practice and inability to see what's on screen. Once the floating phases were over, and I was able to survive the one-shot meteor rain, meteor maze, and DIE beam, my SO's took care of him in seconds. Sadly, nothing of note whatsoever dropped, not even an Ivory Watchstone. But I got another challenge completed!



Digging in for a while myself and looking at another build (the cold carrion golem). In POB, I moved the carrion golem to the 6/7L helm with multistrike, melee phys, and elemental damage with attacks - puts out 2m dps itself with no awakened gems.

This keeps specs in the chest, but with other changes, I was able to get SO dps from 400k to 580k using Flesh Offering and putting Bonechill in the shield with Skitterbots and Convocation.

I'm probably going to try it out. I haven't had trouble with content, and I've done sirus a few times on A8 fine, but definitely hit a wall without doing something with a 6/7L helm.
Last edited by Kymberlee#6858 on May 24, 2021, 2:42:27 PM
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Kymberlee wrote:

Digging in for a while myself and looking at another build (the cold carrion golem). In POB, I moved the carrion golem to the 6/7L helm with multistrike, melee phys, and elemental damage with attacks - puts out 2m dps itself with no awakened gems.

This keeps specs in the chest, but with other changes, I was able to get SO dps from 400k to 580k using Flesh Offering and putting Bonechill in the shield with Skitterbots and Convocation.

Very cool! If you do get it working, please consider sharing your POB. It would be interesting to see.
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Buggez wrote:
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miguetud wrote:
Hi all, thnx for sharing this build, is my first league anyone can look and try help how improve my dmg.
Thx

PoB
https://pastebin.com/FjZLwPrP

Same story as the guy I replied to on the previous page. You already have a pretty high dps but your configuration is wrong on the pob you linked.
If you get a +1 wand that has 50%+ minion damage and 15%+ minion attack speed you are already gonna have more dps than Kay's pob.



Really apreciate, can you tell me where the fault is??
new POB https://pastebin.com/ar3cW4ue

have this wand
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miguetud wrote:
Really apreciate, can you tell me where the fault is??
new POB https://pastebin.com/ar3cW4ue

have this wand

Yeah I saw you have that wand, it's a decent one. But it could be better if it also had "minions have increased attack and cast speed" instead of something useless like cast speed or projectile speed. A wand with +1 to minion gems, 50%+ minion damage, 15%+ minion attack/cast speed + trigger should cost 3-5ex.
Last edited by Buggez#6912 on May 24, 2021, 4:15:04 PM
can anyone help me with some tips if i need to change something now?

https://pastebin.com/iTzFmmPz
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Sahedy wrote:
can anyone help me with some tips if i need to change something now?

https://pastebin.com/iTzFmmPz

Lots of your gems are missing quality that would benefit from it. Your IC + CWDT are unnecessarily high level. You should get a shield that has #% life recovered when you block. Your flasks don't have the best affixes, check good flask affixes from this guide and make sure all flasks have quality as well.

If you want more damage you could get ghastly eye jewels that have "minions deal increased damage if you have used a minion skill recently". Devouring diadem with either spectres have increased attack/cast speed or spectres have increased damage. +1 int amulet. +1 wand that has minion attack speed on top of minion damage, or +2 with those if you are drowning in currency.

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