[3.5] SWOLE Blaze Vortex | RF BV Chieftain | 9K life | 3.5M Shaper DPS | Uber Elder down

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Tagmatar wrote:

Hi

Build look realy strong, i have some questions. Is this build can be a league starter or need finance to wroks properly? Are the damage of BV alone in a 5L helm is ok until we can sustain RF and afford a 6L helm?

Thanks in advance and fly safe.

You can get this as a league starter, I mean obviously you level first with something like sunder till you gather some basic currency.

After it, you just get yourself something like these items, till you can properly afford better ones, and you can already sustain RF from early on in the game. These are great for leveling and since there is no leveling section.....

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cloak_of_Flame

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ambu%27s_Charge

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shaper%27s_Seed

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ngamahu_Tiki

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Pyre

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Kikazaru

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Springleaf

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Oak

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Belt_of_the_Deceiver

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Aurumvorax

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Goldrim

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Hrimnor%27s_Resolve


These items+there are many others for boots,for gloves...etc, should give you enough resist and enough regen to sustain RF from a very early lvl, that is if you wish to start with RF from about let us say lvl 30-35. You don't even need BV for that. Most of those items are quite cheap in every league as they are basic uniques you find for 2-3 alchs or 2-3c. Run a purity of fire and a vitality+some life flasks and one that removes burning and you are good to go over pretty much all the acts with just this.

After that you can switch around, get other items, equip bv as that one does require dex and as far as I know,astramentis is not exactly cheap in the early stages of a league.

For later game, you need proper items and you need to invest some serious currency, RF life builds are not one of those "budget endgame viable" builds, most of them are quite expensive, as you need elder items, you need something like a kaom's, elder helmets,watcher's eye..etc,etc, that is if you want to go for red elder, shaper, uber elder, uber atziri and so on. Considering the current meta, you go with a basic arc trapper in tier 8-10 maps with crap items and a tabula, you can't do that with a RF build.

I'm quite curious about next league(let us see what the nerf hammer will hit next), and I think I will try this build for that, play around with it a bit as RF builds can be flexible.

Hmm those new boots, I think they can improve this build. Since you already don't go for EE you don't really care about the added fire damage, or if one wants to go for EE and not go for avatar of fire, a brutality support would negate the fire damage from the boots.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Doryani%27s_Delusion

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Hmm those new boots, I think they can improve this build. Since you already don't go for EE you don't really care about the added fire damage, or if one wants to go for EE and not go for avatar of fire, a brutality support would negate the fire damage from the boots.
Doryani's Delusion

I think these boots would be a great addition to this build. Between Alberon's Warpath and Kaom's Roots, these provide the most movement speed, which is nice for mapping, but the least life. The built-in PoF in these boots would free up the need for the amulet corruption, which could make them a cheaper altenative depending on supply and demand. Depending on your flat strength and the unrevealed value range of the damage roll on Doryani's Delusion, this might provide more damage than Alberon's Warpath. I think that Kaom's Roots would still be prefered for the Uber Elder fight due to the flat life and the slow-immunity.

On a side-note: EE should never be picked in this build!

How is this build for lab farming?

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How is this build for lab farming?

With proper gear an Izaro phase would last about a second and with 9K life, you'll be safe from any combination of Izaro buffs. Argus can pretty much be face tanked for the entire duration of the couple-seconds-encounter. For traps you can simply douse RF and tank them, especially furnace traps are a joke. I would say it's pretty solid for uber lab.

This build was recommended for start of a league, I found it incredibly hard to level (the worst character I levelled for a looong time, felt nooob again). And it has some steep requirements before it rolls (haven't met them yet). I can believe it has a high potential, but you have to work quite a lot to reach it.

And the 9k life is probably nice, but it seems to be the sole layer of defense the character has. I played tri elementalist BV during Incursion, it was esaier to level (though not perfect, but it was rolling well before 75) and seemed much more able to withstand ennemies than what I see now.

I'll keep playing, as I have never played a righteous fire guy and BV remains fun anyway.


Pure talent : why do you use this actually ? The marauder bonus is about melee area of effect and, as far, as I can see, no other starting pint is linked to our tree...

I've tried this build in flashback race but was rly hard to lvl, just rid till 35 for box, as a league starter i got dual wirld consacrated path which was rly fun and easy, now at 81 im thinking about reset cuz bv is easier to scale than consacrated path for me.

Which lvl we can star using rf in this build?

Yo, the tree is misleading, you dont have enough attributes to run BV or the gloves. unless im missing something big

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Which lvl we can star using rf in this build?

If you have Springleaf, Shaper's Seed, Kikazaru (2x), and capped fire resistance, you can run RF as early as lvl 20. Else you should wait until you have Saffell's Frame, regen nodes, Purity of Fire, and Vitality. If you have trouble running RF early on, you can use BV without RF.

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This build was recommended for start of a league, I found it incredibly hard to level

The reason I started last league with this build, is because it gets you into the endgame quite comfortably without the need for a 6L, not because RF and BV are solid skills to level with. I leveled with Molten Strike myself, but there are many ways to go about it.

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And it has some steep requirements before it rolls

I got it rolling with as little as 20 chaos, you can consult the budgeting section for more on this.

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And the 9k life is probably nice, but it seems to be the sole layer of defense the character has

Having 9K life in itself it quite a formidable defensive layer in it's own right, but there are a couple more: endurance charges from ascendancy and Warlord's Mark, Fortify, 6K armour, 2K life regen, life leech from BV, spell block, increased max res, and of course you'll kill many things before they even hit you.

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Pure talent: why do you use this actually?

I don't, it's in the PoB by mistake, thanks for noticing.

Hi Day, damage wise, with little investment, it seems really poor compared to dual (then tri) herald BV.

And I agree it is exaggerated to say you only have 9k, but :

endurance charges from ascendancy and Warlord's Mark : not until a certain level.

Fortify is kinda mandatory anyway,

6K armour is not that much,

2K life regen : at the beginning the regen is just compensating RF,

life leech from BV, don't have it yet,

spell block, increased max res : those two yes, but you equip so many uniques you have to try hard to get capped resists (a real trouble for me right now, after act 10).


you'll kill many things before they even hit you. Weeeell, not so much right now. My DPS sucks and I have to change all items at once (poor as fuck, no good drop) so that I can see what rare items I need (res, dexterity, life...).


All in all, I'm sure it is great once rolling, I find it hard to make rolling. I would recommend it for a second character. Not a first, it is not smooth (but the endgame will compensate).



Also, you should say which ascendancies one should get first. I dabbled a bit, not sure.