[3.4] KissMeQuick's Freeze Spectral Throw | Easy Instakill Shaper | Smooth Mapping | Uber Elder

hi, just happened to find this thread,
was doing another glass cannon toon,
did anyone survive uber elder in 6 portals?

No, no "instakill shaper" yet :(

Guess I need to learn to position.

https://pastebin.com/VMTKRCE1

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snoeppen wrote:

No, no "instakill shaper" yet :(

Guess I need to learn to position.

https://pastebin.com/VMTKRCE1

That's odd. You definitely should be able to instakill Shaper long time ago.

Are you using slower projectiles for Shaper?
What I can suggest is get your gems to level 20 and also make sure you have T1/T2 Attack speed which is 23-27.
14 AS vs 25 AS for your case is as good as 80% WED.

This is 1 level higher but try this.

https://pastebin.com/2EHeRLJr

The way how you kill bosses is that( if invulnerable, 3S before the fight start) you Totem - Frost Bomb - Spam your Vaal Spectral Throw all charges - Spectral Throw.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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snoeppen wrote:

No, no "instakill shaper" yet :(

Guess I need to learn to position.

https://pastebin.com/VMTKRCE1

That's odd. You definitely should be able to instakill Shaper long time ago.

Are you using slower projectiles for Shaper?
What I can suggest is get your gems to level 20 and also make sure you have T1/T2 Attack speed which is 23-27.
14 AS vs 25 AS for your case is as good as 80% WED.

This is 1 level higher but try this.

https://pastebin.com/2EHeRLJr

The way how you kill bosses is that( if invulnerable, 3S before the fight start) you Totem - Frost Bomb - Spam your Vaal Spectral Throw all charges - Spectral Throw.

Well yes, need to get another weapon then, and level some gems.

Edit: Just bought t1 cold t1 lightning t2 ASA and crafted Crit, any suggestions how to proceed with that one ? Multi or try a lucky exalt ? :)

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snoeppen wrote:

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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snoeppen wrote:

No, no "instakill shaper" yet :(

Guess I need to learn to position.

https://pastebin.com/VMTKRCE1

That's odd. You definitely should be able to instakill Shaper long time ago.

Are you using slower projectiles for Shaper?
What I can suggest is get your gems to level 20 and also make sure you have T1/T2 Attack speed which is 23-27.
14 AS vs 25 AS for your case is as good as 80% WED.

This is 1 level higher but try this.

https://pastebin.com/2EHeRLJr

The way how you kill bosses is that( if invulnerable, 3S before the fight start) you Totem - Frost Bomb - Spam your Vaal Spectral Throw all charges - Spectral Throw.

Well yes, need to get another weapon then, and level some gems.

Edit: Just bought t1 cold t1 lightning t2 ASA and crafted Crit, any suggestions how to proceed with that one ? Multi or try a lucky exalt ? :)

If it has crit already crafted then you're good to go. You can exalt but then you have to consider that the cost of your current weapon should be at least 300C+
I think only max rolled claw with the stats we need would be 300C.

I am trying to figure out why I am not doing a lot of damage and i get melted if i get looked at. https://pastebin.com/R9JSdAm8

Can someone take a look and tell me what I am doing wrong. I know the gem levels and qual are lower, but is the quality and levels matter so much that kiss me's unbuffed damage is like 160k more dps than me?

Hey there. Love the Build so far, especially because it lets me use spectral ST MTX, which is just beautiful. So thanks a lot and good job!

I have thrown around 10-15 ex into the build and feel quite strong up to tier 15. So its not really that budget if you calculate 25-100c for each abyss jewel.

2 Questions:
1. How do you deal with the chaos Spammerinos? I see you didnt use Phase Acro, and we have no Chaos Res on any Gear piece. Its so annoying to get 1shot in Incursions over and over again (partly due to performance issues which popped up lately), while breezing though the rest of the game. I kinda wanna take Phase Acro + a Quartz Flask. Not sure which nodes to drop though...

2. Could you elaborate on what makes the conversion so strong? The 2 Ring Slots would really go a long long way with getting life and resistances up there, while still offering 50-60% Ele Dmg each?

Cheers Mate and keep it up!

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hankisawesome wrote:

I am trying to figure out why I am not doing a lot of damage and i get melted if i get looked at. https://pastebin.com/R9JSdAm8

Can someone take a look and tell me what I am doing wrong. I know the gem levels and qual are lower, but is the quality and levels matter so much that kiss me's unbuffed damage is like 160k more dps than me?

You need to have life on all Abyss and normal jewels. Having 1 life + 1 resistance / damage is fine. You also didn't have fire resistance capped which is the most important resistance.

https://pastebin.com/9YWeFyAF

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Swagshitbrattä wrote:

Hey there. Love the Build so far, especially because it lets me use spectral ST MTX, which is just beautiful. So thanks a lot and good job!

I have thrown around 10-15 ex into the build and feel quite strong up to tier 15. So its not really that budget if you calculate 25-100c for each abyss jewel.

2 Questions:
1. How do you deal with the chaos Spammerinos? I see you didnt use Phase Acro, and we have no Chaos Res on any Gear piece. Its so annoying to get 1shot in Incursions over and over again (partly due to performance issues which popped up lately), while breezing though the rest of the game. I kinda wanna take Phase Acro + a Quartz Flask. Not sure which nodes to drop though...

2. Could you elaborate on what makes the conversion so strong? The 2 Ring Slots would really go a long long way with getting life and resistances up there, while still offering 50-60% Ele Dmg each?

Cheers Mate and keep it up!

I agree with the performance, but what helps is removing the Herald MTX if you have. I used Automaton + Innocence and I lagged whole day thinking it was the servers but once I changed to double Gore, it was acceptable again.

What did you spend your money on?

1. I personally don't remember Incursions or anthing being a problem since they get frozen instantly and die quick. Maybe you give them too much time?

2. The conversion is so strong because we get a lot of it from Wrath + Herald of Thunder and lightning damage in general has higher numbers than cold. So 80& T1 lightning damage converted is more damage than 100% T1 cold.

I see that you're using a rare shield as well, that could be the reason why you die to incursion. You miss 2 shot on them and they get off freeze and blast you down.
Also you have Terror claw which doesn't give you HP on hit which is the main reason why we use claws.


I'll try to elaborate more on stats today in the main post.

i see u r not using ghastly/ hypnotic eye.

is the damage u miss on theese greater than the extra damage u would get for 2 more kinds of abyss jewels affecting u?

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

What did you spend your money on?

As i remember it:

Rings 15c each, Amulet 50c, Lightpoacher 40c, Tombfist 70c, Shroud 2,5 ex, good resist boots 100c, Claw 15c, Shield (Resistances, Life, Accuracy) 25c, Decent Stygian Vise 100c -> Total around 6 ex. Rest for Life + Double ele rolls, some with accuracy, some resist Murderous Eye Jewels

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

1. I personally don't remember Incursions or anthing being a problem since they get frozen instantly and die quick. Maybe you give them too much time?

I see that you're using a rare shield as well, that could be the reason why you die to incursion. You miss 2 shot on them and they get off freeze and blast you down.
Also you have Terror claw which doesn't give you HP on hit which is the main reason why we use claws.

Hm.. I dont know... i have 88% chance to hit without lycosidae. Thats not perfect, but thats not the Problem here. Maybe i´m the only one, because im bad, but the thing where you open the door in an incursion, and there is a pack of these ranged Chaos Damage Spammers (Dont know how else to call them) and they just 1shot me, due to -60 chaos res, only 4.9k life right now. I mean like kill me without me being able to attack first.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

2. The conversion is so strong because we get a lot of it from Wrath + Herald of Thunder and lightning damage in general has higher numbers than cold. So 80& T1 lightning damage converted is more damage than 100% T1 cold.

Thats true. It´s just that Shroud gives 37% Lightning Pen, the ascendancy gives 25. Frostbite could be replaced with Ele Weakness (-39% Pen vs 44% on Frostbite). On the tree, I Could replace Fangs of Frost (8% cold Pen) with Forces of Nature (6% Ele Pen). Then there is the 20% pen on Pandemonius. So in your suggested setup we have 80% of our Lightning Dmg as Cold, which benefits from 27% more Penetration. Just wondering if we really need to use our 2 ring Slots for that, as our Lightning Damage also benefits from over 100% pen on bosses.
If any1 has OP Opal Rings, I´m interested in hearing about some testing.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

I'll try to elaborate more on stats today in the main post.

Cheers, and thanks for quick reply.