[3.7 updated] Voidfletcher Deadeye (all core content cleared, budget options available, 600+ depth)

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kiligen86 wrote:

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Fritso wrote:

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kiligen86 wrote:

Would it be interesting to put ice bite + cold damage support?

I would look like something like that :

Ice shot - Ice bite - Cold damage - Mirage archer - elemental damage - 6th slots (faster attacks for me)

Well, removing bonechill for more damage ? Bonechill says "have cold damage taken increased by chill effect" but I can't find anything on wiki about those raw damage increase, only for DoT damages :/

I would drop Ice Bite completely, because it is just sub par compared to other gems. A gem like Hypothermia (39% more dmg) would give you a lot more dmg.

So, I'd go with something like:

Ice Bite - Mirage Archer- Added Cold - Ele dmg - Hypothermia - 6th link depending on preference.

Faster attacks would indeed be nice as a 6th link. If you already have enough dmg/attack speed, you could also try Greater Multiple Projectiles for better area coverage during map clear. GMP is not good for the single target on Ice Shot though.

And would it be smart to switch hypothermia on boss for cold penetration? Boss aren't affected by chill so we don't profit from hypothermia bonus right?

I'm doing barrage to dump all my void shots early on then connectings with regular ice shot on it to be more safe moving around quickly so that's why i'm trying to figure out a way to optimize both worlds

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Fritso wrote:

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kiligen86 wrote:

And would it be smart to switch hypothermia on boss for cold penetration? Boss aren't affected by chill so we don't profit from hypothermia bonus right?

I'm doing barrage to dump all my void shots early on then connectings with regular ice shot on it to be more safe moving around quickly so that's why i'm trying to figure out a way to optimize both worlds

You are correct. Switching Hypothermia for something like Cold Pen would be a good idea for bosses. Don't think it's needed for normal map bosses, but will help for T16 guardians/Elder/Shaper.

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Shppy wrote:

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Fritso wrote:

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kiligen86 wrote:

And would it be smart to switch hypothermia on boss for cold penetration? Boss aren't affected by chill so we don't profit from hypothermia bonus right?

I'm doing barrage to dump all my void shots early on then connectings with regular ice shot on it to be more safe moving around quickly so that's why i'm trying to figure out a way to optimize both worlds

You are correct. Switching Hypothermia for something like Cold Pen would be a good idea for bosses. Don't think it's needed for normal map bosses, but will help for T16 guardians/Elder/Shaper.

Couple points:

Bosses are affected by chill, nothing is immune to chill anymore. And Ice Shot's chilled ground means you don't even have to depend on hitting damage thresholds to chill, you will chill guaranteed if they're on that ground.

To the bonechill question from earlier, bonechill causes increased cold damage taken on enemies based on the strength of the chill. It also gives a static amount of additional increased cold damage over time taken that this build doesn't use, but the chill-scaling part applies to all cold damage and is useful to this build, and it amounts to about 15-16% more damage for every skill in the setup. It's less dps for ice shot itself, but it's much better for voidshot and tshot/barrage/etc.


The notion of using the trigger skills to help out voidshot is also part of the reason i use faster attacks, despite it not being as much raw dps for the skill its linked to as other stuff like slower projectiles. Faster attacks means being able to trigger voidshots more rapidly (although that's less relevant if you use the barrage approach), and it also means being able to attack-and-move more ably, which is important to this build's defense... we can't really afford to be stuck in place too long.

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Setris7 wrote:

Hello,

Could you help me what is the cloak used in the guide video ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZkdU_Tl4qw

Best Regards.

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Fritso wrote:

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oNx1g wrote:

Video of me doing Deathless Uber Elder with that Build :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR-nImKDY6Y&t=4s

Nice! Good stuff.

One thing I'd like to mention though. I see you've taken the Rupture Ascendamcy node for More crit on bleeding enemies. However, I see you're using Ice Shot and have specced into the Winter Spirit node. This means that 100% of your phys damage is converted to cold damage. Not dealing any phys damage means you cannot bleed an enemy. Thus you gain no benefit from this ascendancy for Ice Shot.

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Vanguard28 wrote:

Ice Shot itself converts the remaining 60% of physical to cold.

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lemonpopplar wrote:

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Vanguard28 wrote:

Ice Shot itself converts the remaining 60% of physical to cold.

If I have 99%, then I should be able to proc bleeding, right? Since im using Rupture I should drop Winter Spirit then and go use those skill points in another node.

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lemonpopplar wrote:

If I have 99%, then I should be able to proc bleeding, right? Since im using Rupture I should drop Winter Spirit then and go use those skill points in another node.