Skill Revamps - Part 3

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C0Y0T3_SLY wrote:

...am I the only one who's concerned they don't seem to understand the diminishing marginal returns on additional barrage projectiles in term of relative DPS? Adding your fifth arrow gives you 25% more DPS; adding your 11th only gives you 10% more.

Call me crazy, but it's hard to trust them to balance skills via mechanics instead of numerical adjustments when they can't be bothered to understand the mechanics in the first place.

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Zyrixion wrote:

"We realize barrage is the only viable single-target skill for bows and wands and we realize we need to diversify this, so to that end we're nerfing barrage without making any other single-target bow/wand skills viable."

GGG logic. :thinking:

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glopus0614 wrote:

so instead of making other skills that are comparable to barrage, you decide to trash the only single target wand skill available, while at the same time taking away even more reasons to even play bow characters other than a stupid MF Windripper. GREAT JOB GGG keep destroying bow builds every patch... feels great... reach of the council, doomfletch, death's opus, barrage... yeah bow builds will cease to exist with the exception of mf windripper. smart move

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FrenchyJr wrote:

Spoiler

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Serleth wrote:

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FrenchyJr wrote:

Can you please explain why skills need to be balanced with each other in a non-competitive ARPG?

It seems perfectly acceptable that some skills are better than others, as long as they all feel powerful in end game (moving into downright over powered when well geared). They don't have to be equal.

But that's the problem with Barrage. It's the de facto single target choice for bow builds. There are no other good / powerful options at the moment, not unless you really enjoy shooting yourself in the foot.

The problem isn't with barrage, that's my point. They need to just make other skills better. Who cares if barrage is great or better than the rest if the others are viable. Make them viable.