[3.2] Hirophant Poet's Pen VD with Indigon and Perm Immortal Call - Uber Elder Deathless

bump. small update to immortal call setup
IGN: PojzonAbyss
[3.2] Immortal Indigon Poet's Pen Hirophant - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2129766
[3.1] Yamata No Orochi - Oni-Goroshi Jugg http://poeurl.com/bHB9
[2.4] The True Queen Of The Forest - Poison LA/BR Pathfinder http://poeurl.com/M6u [Retired]
bump. added section of how to deal with Reflect maps + Ele Reflect Minotaur Video
IGN: PojzonAbyss
[3.2] Immortal Indigon Poet's Pen Hirophant - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2129766
[3.1] Yamata No Orochi - Oni-Goroshi Jugg http://poeurl.com/bHB9
[2.4] The True Queen Of The Forest - Poison LA/BR Pathfinder http://poeurl.com/M6u [Retired]
Well, I give up, best I could do is 1:39 sec, can't believe how that miner did it in 1:32...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-JxmpLAF6I&feature=youtu.be

I will try uber elder carry for full party, that is not yet been done I think....
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Hey! Nice build!
Having tons of fun leveling it up

Just a question... could you explain me why the fire pen linked to VD and not conc effect/ele focus?
Does it gives more dmg once we run the indigon?
ty!

Jaeger
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JaegerMeister_CL wrote:
Hey! Nice build!
Having tons of fun leveling it up

Just a question... could you explain me why the fire pen linked to VD and not conc effect/ele focus?
Does it gives more dmg once we run the indigon?
ty!

Jaeger


To counter boss resistances.

Lets say you deal 1M pure dps.

Ele focus version:

1 000 000 x 1.54 x 1.49 ~ 2.3M dmg before mitigation

Normally bosses have 40% ele resists, so:

No pen after mitigation is:

~1 375 000 dps

Now with this build you already have some pen built in (20%):

So no pen version would actually deal x0.8 dmg:

~1 840 000 dps (this would be your dps vs Shaper or Elder because those instances have no map mods.)

But it looks ALOT worse in case of guardians because you can roll %ele resist and ele equilibrium, effectively making it half or less dmg.

---

Now pen version

1 000 000 base x 1.54 = 1 540 000 before mitigation

After mitigation its still 1 540 000 but because you have built in ele penetration, in most cases total penetration is 60% which actually works as an additional 1.2 multipler:

1 540 000 x 1.2 ~ 1 850 000 after combined penetration (this is dps vs Shaper because he cannot roll map mods)

Penetration also looks a lot better in case of map mods because you have total of 60% penetration.

---

So overall :

- penetration has higher EFFECTIVE dmg vs Endgame bosses
- is less effected by map mods
- but has less Tooltip bullshit dmg ;)

Bosses setup is: VD-Conc-Fire Pen
IGN: PojzonAbyss
[3.2] Immortal Indigon Poet's Pen Hirophant - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2129766
[3.1] Yamata No Orochi - Oni-Goroshi Jugg http://poeurl.com/bHB9
[2.4] The True Queen Of The Forest - Poison LA/BR Pathfinder http://poeurl.com/M6u [Retired]
Last edited by eragon1111#0889 on Apr 23, 2018, 3:43:07 AM
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eragon1111 wrote:
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JaegerMeister_CL wrote:
Hey! Nice build!
Having tons of fun leveling it up

Just a question... could you explain me why the fire pen linked to VD and not conc effect/ele focus?
Does it gives more dmg once we run the indigon?
ty!

Jaeger


To counter boss resistances.

Lets say you deal 1M pure dps.

Ele focus version:

1 000 000 x 1.54 x 1.49 ~ 2.3M dmg before mitigation

Normally bosses have 40% ele resists, so:

No pen after mitigation is:

~1 375 000 dps

Now with this build you already have some pen built in (20%):

So no pen version would actually deal x0.8 dmg:

~1 840 000 dps (this would be your dps vs Shaper or Elder because those instances have no map mods.)

But it looks ALOT worse in case of guardians because you can roll %ele resist and ele equilibrium, effectively making it half or less dmg.

---

Now pen version

1 000 000 base x 1.54 = 1 540 000 before mitigation

After mitigation its still 1 540 000 but because you have built in ele penetration, in most cases total penetration is 60% which actually works as an additional 1.2 multipler:

1 540 000 x 1.2 ~ 1 850 000 after combined penetration (this is dps vs Shaper because he cannot roll map mods)

Penetration also looks a lot better in case of map mods because you have total of 60% penetration.

---

So overall :

- penetration has higher EFFECTIVE dmg vs Endgame bosses
- is less effected by map mods
- but has less Tooltip bullshit dmg ;)

Bosses setup is: VD-Conc-Fire Pen


Wow thanks for the answer!

Another question from this n00b... Once we have the WM ring... and a 6L frenzy, would it make sense to get EE and squeeze somewhere a added ligh/cold gem (or flat att in gloves)
Or we attack too slowly in comparison to our fiery balls?
How much APS do you recommend to have on the Frenzy/KB?
EE question - not worth it

APS question - depends a lot on your setup.
IGN: PojzonAbyss
[3.2] Immortal Indigon Poet's Pen Hirophant - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2129766
[3.1] Yamata No Orochi - Oni-Goroshi Jugg http://poeurl.com/bHB9
[2.4] The True Queen Of The Forest - Poison LA/BR Pathfinder http://poeurl.com/M6u [Retired]
Where did you guys get your Atziri's Foible with the curse corruption. I cannot seem to find anyone selling.
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Taioneren wrote:
Where did you guys get your Atziri's Foible with the curse corruption. I cannot seem to find anyone selling.


buy cheap ones and vaal?
I have an Alien pet.

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