[3.4] Teleports Behind You - Poet's Pen Lightning Warp & Arc, MF / Facetank t16 / Shaper / U. Elder

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Pracis wrote:

looks like a fabulous build! Thank you for sharing!

Question: What order is ideal for the ascendancy skills for the Elementalist?

First Mastermind of Discord, then Beacon of Ruin

I also want to share my Magic-Find setup with you guys:


47 quantity, 48 rarity. If you're on a tight budget then try for Bisco's Leash first, then Sadima's touch, then fill in the rest as you can.

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dariidar wrote:

Ok, so I threw together a Scion PoB really fast: https://pastebin.com/Th0AFFjz

Some numbers:
Life 4973
Unreserved mana 2055
Arc average hit 39k

Now compare it to Elementalist: https://pastebin.com/2dmJV6Et

Life 4932
Unreserved mana 2125
Arc average hit 33.5k

HOWEVER, both numbers are calculated assuming that Shock gives 50% inc damage taken by enemies.
In reality, the shock against a large boss is much different. If you calculate all of the shock effect on my gear, my Elementalist shocks for about 46% inc damage taken, while the Ascendant only shocks for about 23% inc damage taken.

Redoing the numbers, the damage looks like this:

Elementalist 32.6k
Ascendant 32.4k (When doing this calculation, you must account that the Ascendant - Inquis node also increases damage taken by 10%, which is additive with shock)

On top of this, Ascendant maybe wants a poet's pen with Ele Prolif to have comparable clearspeed to the elementalist. Or perhaps, a Vinktar would do the trick, still have to do some tests. Still, they seem to have pretty similar dps, but Ascendant requires investment in 2 more expensive jewels and maybe other gear on top of that. In the end, it gets reflect immunity, but the setup is a bit more painful.

Yes, but I do believe that getting one single poet pen with the good corruption (which is 20c right now when a "normal" poet pen is 10c) is a pretty low requirement for getting immune reflect + immune ailment, don't you think?

But yes, I underestimated the shock effectivemess on the dps comparaison.

Also, your comparaison is on the basis both build use herald of thunder, which is not a requirement for the scion who can run wrath for 21% more damage.

Edit: If you are doing a scion build, you want to start from the templar, not from the witch. You lose 2% increased damage (very low), but at least, you get 26% increased damage on inpulsa aoe (not low at all).

Love the build so far, any reason for the low level gems in some of the gear? like lvl 8 arcane support in helm, level 5 frenzy in gloves? i understand why the low level for the cast when damage taken setup but the odd low level gems in the items mentioned before i dont get. this is my first season playing POE and i got to 91 as a zombie necro but got sick and tired of minotour and phoenix completely wrecking my minions. nothing i did would make them last against those boss's. every thing else zombies was amazing against, got to 14/15 shaper fragments with zombies.

i coppied your gear almost as closely as i can and i am LOVING it. love just lighting warping around i havent had to touch a quicksilver flask since i changed to your build. so fast. ty again.

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Keyen wrote:

Yes, but I do believe that getting one single poet pen with the good corruption (which is 20c right now when a "normal" poet pen is 10c) is a pretty low requirement for getting immune reflect + immune ailment, don't you think?

But yes, I underestimated the shock effectivemess on the dps comparaison.

Also, your comparaison is on the basis both build use herald of thunder, which is not a requirement for the scion who can run wrath for 21% more damage.


Edit: How do you manage to get 130% shock effectivess? You have 40% on chest, 10% on crackling speed, which is 79% shock effectivness on arc and 89% on shock nova.

Well, right now theres less than 10 of those kinds of wands on poe.trade. If too many make this build then it would not be nearly as cheap!

Elementalist shock effectiveness: 40% chest, 10% crackling speed, 20% from beacon of ruin, 43% from level 24 shock nova, and the rest from Abyss jewels in skilltree and Darkness enthroned.

Btw, I also miscalculated Ascendant's shock, because they lose 20% shock effectiveness by not having beacon of ruin. So ascendant is even lower in %shock.

Regarding herald of thunder: For ascendant it gives about 10% more damage. Compared to Wrath's 20% more damage but much higher mana reservation. In order for Ascendant to run Wrath, you will need to use Essence worm because otherwise it would take way too much of your mana pool for MoM to work well. But if you take essence worm, then you lose even more flat life, meaning that you need to spend more points in order to get similar eHP to the elementalist. I believe that the life/resists you lose from using Essence worm/wrath is not worth the extra damage, but it really depends on the kind of gear you have. Perhaps if you tweaked everything just right, the two ascendancies could come out pretty even in damage/ehp.

with all of that said, the ele reflect protection is very tempting. If I make this character again, I may well consider Ascendant.

follow up, what do you recommend for pantheon powers and flask selections. i appreciate any response you have time for.

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Virel_360 wrote:

follow up, what do you recommend for pantheon powers and flask selections. i appreciate any response you have time for.

Brine King and Ralakesh.

Flasks are very simple, . You may want to consider Vessel of Vinktar or The Wise Oak in place of the second life flask.

Cool build :) Love the lightning warp idea, no cast time because of Poet's pen is great :D Love it so much for lvling (I lvl most characters with pens, now it just got better!)

What do you guys think about this scion Version. You could include a pure talent jewel for the bonus with scion, templar and assasin. It has 5,5k life and also good damage. Or is acro + phase acro too important?

https://pastebin.com/TPANxs59

I don't think Alira is the correct choice in this build. Mana regen is useless, you shouldn't need all res, and the crit multiplier is weak compared to 2 points. With two points, you can pick Lightning Walker or Light of Divinity.

You may be right. In the early stages it helps though because of the heavy amount of uniques in this build (inpulsa, mind of the council, Berks grip, choir of the storms). Early on I also wanted to use biscos leash and sadimas touch for farming, which only left one ring and boots to cover the rest of resists.

But later on As you fill out resists you could probably change bandit choice.

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Depends what you want to do with the build, I think things like phase acro are so valuable for tanking fast hitting spells for example the lightning elder guardian.