[3.17] For Marauder - Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam Build
kira now i have 20 ex ok what to do better berzerker or that slayer what is better ? i have the 2 chracters lvl 60 on your perconal think what is better to do overall?
kira now i have 20 ex ok what to do better berzerker or that slayer what is better ? i have the 2 chracters lvl 60 on your perconal think what is better to do overall?
Berserker will have better mobility because of rage ascendancy while Slayer has better survivability because of overleech.
If you hate dying, go for Slayer. If level 90+ is fine with you, go for Berserker.
For either ascendancy, I recommend the mapping gems setup. With Berserk gem, boss fights will be a joke to you.
currently I am playing BV jugg mainly for clearing speed as I would like to slowly exp 100lvl but BV feels a little bit weird so I am looking for other builds and this one looks really good.
I would like to keep playing jugg for tankiness but I really cant decide between the main skill. Could you please advise me which skill would have best synergy with jugg ascendancy and Headhunter? Also if you could state some differences (pros and cons) between the skills within this build? Thank you so much for your answer:)
If your intention is to hit level 100 as a Jugg, I would recommend you go with Cyclone because it is inherently more tanky because of Infused Channeling + Fortify. :)
Hello again, currently waiting for some cheap helmet with Cyclone enchant :D just have two questions.
Firstly, I would like to use my Watchers with gain phys as fire dmg and fire leech anger mods. But when I tried to equip my watchers in PoB, it improved my leech very slightly (+10 I think). Is it wrong in PoB or anger leech + leech nodes are too much? I know there is some leech cap but really dont understand it. If the cap is the case, could you please advise me how to change the skill tree? I really dont wanna waste watcher's mod, so that's why I am asking.
Secondly, is there any particular good Lethal Pride or is it just randomness?
Hello again, currently waiting for some cheap helmet with Cyclone enchant :D just have two questions.
Firstly, I would like to use my Watchers with gain phys as fire dmg and fire leech anger mods. But when I tried to equip my watchers in PoB, it improved my leech very slightly (+10 I think). Is it wrong in PoB or anger leech + leech nodes are too much? I know there is some leech cap but really dont understand it. If the cap is the case, could you please advise me how to change the skill tree? I really dont wanna waste watcher's mod, so that's why I am asking.
Secondly, is there any particular good Lethal Pride or is it just randomness?
Thank you so much for the answer :)
The fire leech will extend the leech duration but it isn't that useful because Vitality Void beats it when it comes to leech. But of course, there is no harm having that little bit more leech.
You can always try unspecing the points from Vitality Void and see how it hold out for you and throw the spare points into Rampart.
Lethal Pride is pretty random for the build. One that gives you increased Fortify effect will be really good. Especially if they provide damage too.
Hello! Big thanks for this build. Few leagues ago I've started to play POE with it. But i didn't know all aspects of the game so i've stopped on t12 maps and 89 lvl without killing any end game bosses. All my Ngamahu's build cost mb like 1-2ex's)))
But now after killing all content after few leagues and different builds I decided to try this again in 3.9. So the question. If the balance of marauder not be changed, what ascendancy classes will be 1. most potential damage 2.better for league starting 3.better for lvling after 90+. 4.better for boss killing (because 3.9 will be boss league))
Thank You!
Last edited by RMTVK#4383 on Nov 19, 2019, 9:09:37 AM
Hello! Big thanks for this build. Few leagues ago I've started to play POE with it. But i didn't know all aspects of the game so i've stopped on t12 maps and 89 lvl without killing any end game bosses. All my Ngamahu's build cost mb like 1-2ex's)))
But now after killing all content after few leagues and different builds I decided to try this again in 3.9. So the question. If the balance of marauder not be changed, what ascendancy classes will be 1. most potential damage 2.better for league starting 3.better for lvling after 90+. 4.better for boss killing (because 3.9 will be boss league))
Thank You!
1. Berserker will have the highest damage output.
2. Chieftain will be easier to gear as league starter (do not require Xoph's Blood).
3. Jugg and Chieftain will be tankier than Berserker if you want to level. You will still want to avoid maps with crazy mods to keep it safe.
4. Berserker will be best boss killer, especially with Rage + Berserk
Free Molten Burst that does impressive damage with huge AOE granting high clear speed. Requires 0 link. You just want to pop support gems into this weapon to buff Molten Burst.
Above is a sample of how an elder amulet should roll like. Refer to Recommended Rares section for preferred rolls.
Watcher's Eye provides very good damage boost to the build when you run Anger aura.
Tombfist with Curse Enemies with Level 10 - 12 Elemental Weakness On Hit allows you to drop Flammability curse.
NOTE:
- Watcher's Eye is optional.
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Setup 2: Impresence + Watcher's Eye
Detail Explanation
Impresence 0% mana reservation enabling you to use another aura (i.e. Anger).
Watcher's Eye provides very good damage boost to the build when you run Anger aura.
NOTE:
- Watcher's Eye is optional.
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Provides very good damage boost to the build when you run Anger aura.
If you are not able to obtain the above stats, prioritize "Gain #% physical damage as extra fire damage while affected by Anger".
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Loreweave is the perfect chest for Elemental Overload skill tree.
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Provides attack speed, dexterity, critical strike chances and huge amount of life.
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Provides attack speed, movement speed, dexterity and chaos resistance.
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Up to 50% increased Cyclone damage, 25% increased attack speed, 10% increased movement speed. You can run with 5L. Main drawback is the lack of defense stats.
Bronn's Lithe provides great damage buff to the build. Thanks to @Lunartuna for testing it out.
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Free 6L on a 5L chest.
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Up to 50% increased AOE radius and 50% increased area damage, great clear speed, comes with all resist and decent life. You can run with 5L.
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Belly's large life pool couple with Windscream's +1 curse (for Enfeeble), you can easily reach effective life pool of 8300. Great setup when you are focused on leveling.
Cons: You have to skip hexproof maps as curse do not work on the mobs.
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Similar to Belly + Windscream, Cospri's Will with Enfeeble works great for leveling and your curses work in hexproof maps too.
Cons: Lower effective life pool as compared to Belly + Windscream combo
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Run this ring to shatter ignited mobs. You have to drop Elemental Focus to gain ignite. Great for handling porcupine mobs.
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29% chance to gain endurance charge on kill (with Diamond Skin). A lazy man approach to gain endurance charges without self casting Enduring Cry.
This jewel is pure luxury.
You socket the jewel near Barbarism node as shown:
Recommended Rares
Gloves - Titan Gauntlets Preferred
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At least 75 life (can roll over 100 life in patch 3.0)
At least 10% Attack Speed
At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped)
Intelligence (optional. if you need it to equip gears)
Belt - Stygian (preferred), Rustic or Vanguard Belt
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At least 75 life
At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist
At least 20% Elemental Damage With Attacks
At least 300 armor (optional but highly recommended)
Amulet - Onyx or Turquoise (Elder preferred)
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At least 40 life (60+ preferred, prefix)
Gain #% of Physical Damage as Extra Fire Damage (Elder prefix ilvl 75)
#% of Fire Damage Leeched as Life (Elder prefix ilvl 68)
+% of maximum Life per second to maximum Life Leech rate (Elder prefix ilvl 68)
#% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills (prefix)
Flat physical damage (prefix)
#% increased Attack Speed (Elder suffix ilvl 82)
At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped, suffix)
200+ to Accuracy Rating (suffix)
#% increased Critical Strike Chance (suffix)
Rings - Opal or Steel Rings Preferred
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At least 40 life (60+ preferred, prefix)
200+ to Accuracy Rating (highly recommended)
At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped)
At least 20% Fire damage (optional, can be crafted using Essence of Anger)
At least 20% Elemental Damage With Attacks (optional but highly recommended)
Flat physical damage roll (optional but recommended)
Boots - Titan Greaves Preferred
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At least 75 life (can roll over 100 life in patch 3.0)
At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped)
At least 15% movement
#% chance to gain an Endurance Charge on Kill (elder prefix, recommended)
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level # Fortify (elder prefix)
Gems Setup
Ngamahu's Flame (Do NOT require 6L)
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Combustion reduces monster fire resistance which will make Cyclone do more damage.
4/5/6L Chest For: Cyclone
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NOTE: Craft -8 mana on your rings and you will never run out of mana!
2R2B2G- Bossing Setup
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4L
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5L
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6L
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4R1B1G - Mapping Setup
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You have higher chance to hit this color setup on Bronn when you use 3R on crafting bench.
4L
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5L
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6L
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Replace an optional gem in Leap Slam setup with
And you can use Berserk during boss fight.
How do you gem swap between Bossing and Mapping setup?
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You will color your chest with 2R2B2G and get Vorici to tier 3 in Research safehouse. Pray you get 2 or 3 white sockets at the right spots. If it fails, you have to re-attempt.
E.g.
4/5/6L Chest For: Consecrated Path
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4L
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You can replace Elemental Focus with Combustion for mapping.
5L
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You can replace Concentrated with Ignite Proliferation for mapping.
You can replace Elemental Focus with Combustion for mapping.
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You can replace Concentrated with Ignite Proliferation for mapping.
6L
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Replace with Fortify for more toughness.
Helm / Gloves / Boots
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You can replace Warchief with Protector for stationary boss (e.g. Shaper) fight.
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Recommended Gem Level For:
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Cast When Damage Taken: 1 Immortal Call: 3 Wave of Conviction: 7 Steelskin: 20 (self cast when in combat)
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You can swap Flammability with Enfeeble (level 13) for leveling.
Use Sand stance for mapping, Blood stance for bossing.
You can also replace Blasphemy + Flammability (Enfeeble) curse setup with Flesh and Stone and run Sand stance with it for more survivability.
Flasks Setup - IMPORTANT
Recommended Flask Setup
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Anti-bleed for life flask.
Anti-freeze for Quick Silver flask.
IMPORTANT: To run this setup, ensure your overcapped fire resistance is at least 50% higher than overcapped cold resistance and highest among all resistances.
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E.g. Fire Resist: 159, Cold Resist: 109, Lightning Resist: 109
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Fire Resist: 125, Cold Resist: 75, Lightning Resist: 75
Budget Flask Setup (Great For Uber Lab Too)
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Anti-bleed for life flask.
Anti-curse for Granite flask.
Add Knockback for Basalt flask (to fight Argus in Uber lab).
Anti-freeze for Quick Silver flask.
You can replace Quick Silver with:
You can replace Wise's Oak with:
Special Thanks
To: @noneskii and @ADM0N for pointing out Atziri's Promise to be a viable flask for the build since Chieftain is not restricted by Avatar of Fire.
If you run into mana issues (e.g. no mana regen maps), you can replace quick silver with mana pot:
Abyssal Jewels - Patch 3.1+
Stats to look out for:
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25 to 50 flat life (prefix)
Add 7 to 12 flat physical damage to axe (prefix)
+# to Accuracy Rating (suffix)
#% increased Accuracy Rating if you haven't Killed Recently (suffix)
Add 15 to 40 flat fire damage (suffix)
Add 4 to 8 flat physical damage (suffix)
2% elemental resistance penetration if you have not kill recently (suffix)
#% increased damage against abyssal monsters (suffix)
Recommended (pick 2 prefixs and 2 suffixes):
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25 to 50 flat life (prefix)
Add 7 to 12 flat physical damage to axe (prefix)
121+ to Accuracy Rating (suffix)
#% increased Accuracy Rating if you haven't Killed Recently (suffix)
2% elemental resistance penetration if you have not kill recently (suffix)
Jewels Setup
Stats to look out for:
Increased attack speed %
Physical damage %
Fire damage %
Area damage %
Increased projectile damage %
Max life %
Damage over time % (ignite skill tree only)
Chance to ignite % (ignite skill tree only)
Critical strike chance %
Resistance (if you are missing)
Intelligence (if you are missing)
Samples:
Leveling Skill Trees
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3 different skill trees. 2 of which are budget and league starter friendly.
Re-specing from 1 set to another will cost between 10 to 30 regret orbs.
No Vaal Pact
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Uber Lab Farmer - Resolute Technique (Cheaper To Gear, League Starter Friendly)
Ancestral Warchief Totem grants 30% increased Melee Damage while Active
30% Increased Flammability Curse Effect
15% reduced Anger Mana Reservation
30% reduced Herald of Ash Mana Reservation
Gloves
Attack with Commandment of Fury on Hit
Boots
120% increased Critical Strike Chance if you haven't Crit Recently (only for Elemental Overload skill tree)
Damage Penetrates 10% of Enemy Elemental Resistances if you haven't Killed Recently
16% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've Killed Recently
0.6% of Damage Leeched as Life and Mana if you've Killed Recently
Adds 45 to 68 Fire Damage if you've Killed Recently
Bandits
Kill all for 2 passives
Leveling to 55
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NOTE: Besides the skill gems listed below, you can also switch and stick to Cyclone and use that for leveling from level 28 onward.
Weapons that you can use to get to level 55:
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From Level 1 to Level 12
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At Level 12
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You can switch Molten Strike to
From Level 18 to 38
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From Level 38 to 55
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At level 28, you can start using Ancestral Warchief:
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Remember to socket Cyclone gem into alternate weapon and level it at the same time when you reach level 28.
Jewelries you can use to manage your mana:
Skills you can use to manage your mana:
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: What are the pros/cons of Slayer vs Champion vs Scion vs Chieftain?
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Slayer (requires Xoph's Blood or Avatar of Fire)
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- Best Uber lab farmer
- 20% Culling Strike makes a long fight end so much faster
- Overleech makes Vaal Pact not necessary, and it greatly improve survivability if you do pick Vaal Pact
Champion (requires Xoph's Blood or Avatar of Fire)
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- Ability to run Elemental Overload skill tree without investing into accuracy
- Permanent Fortify from Fortitude, allows running 5 x damage support gems for Cyclone
- Free intimidate and adrenaline damage buff (if you drop Fortitude and pick First to Strike, Last to Fall)
Scion (requires Xoph's Blood or Avatar of Fire)
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- Benefit from Slayer's overleech and 10% culling strike
- Potentially higher damage than Slayer and do not require "On kill" to achieve that
- More jewel sockets and provide more flexibility in gearing choices
Chieftain (Do not require Xoph's Blood nor Avatar of Fire)
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- Cheapest to gear
- Can be great Uber lab farmer (if you follow Uber lab skill tree and gem setup)
- Most flexible when it comes to gearing choices (no elemental penalty from Avatar of Fire)
- You achieve 100% fire conversion once you complete Cruel lab
- Highest potential damage on end game gears
Q: How much accuracy should I aim for?
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At least 600 on gears / jewels. You want to aim for 90% chance to hit.
Q: Why do we pick Point Blank from the skill tree?
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Molten Burst from Ngamahu are projectiles and Point Blank will provide 50% more damage to the balls.
As shown:
Q: I am confused as to what aura to run if I am using (or not) Impresence.
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Hopefully this flowchart makes it clearer:
Q: What is the easiest way to get 3R 2B 1G on Bronn?
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If your Bronn is 6L, Vorici's bench with 2R 1B combination is your best bet.
If your Bronn is NOT 6 linked, you can use jewelers method shown here:
Q: What priority of gems should I focus on to get it to 20% quality?
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Physical damage gems, concentrated gems gets the priority but eventually you will want all gems to be 20/20.
Personally, when a gem hit level 20, I just vendor it with 1 gemcutter's prism for a level 1, 20% quality gem and level it all over again.
@Hitoseijuro wrote a very comprehensive reply on the specific gems to GCP in Slayer's version of the build.
Change Logs
EDIT 1: Added defensive path for Ascendancy and updated FAQ. EDIT 2: Updated flasks section to include Atziri's Promise. Special thanks to @noneskii and @ADM0N for pointing out Atziri's Promise to be a viable flask for the build since Chieftain is not restricted by Avatar of Fire. EDIT 3: Added Uber Lab runner skill tree and recommended Immortal Call setup (gems section). EDIT 4: Added Loreweave into recommended gears section EDIT 5: Updated skill tree for patch 3.4. EDIT 6: Added Consecrated Path setup. EDIT 7: Updated skill tree for patch 3.5. EDIT 8: Updated skill tree for patch 3.6. EDIT 9: Updated skill tree for patch 3.7. EDIT 10: Updated gems section.
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Hey Hey! Are you going to update the build to Metamorph?
During Blight I played with Incinerate but now I want to go back to Ngamahu cyclone chieftain.
I had a really good time when I played it, and I'd like to know if even though it will be a more single target league, do you Ngamahu Cyclone Chieftain will still be good?
Hey! I don't understand have we good news or not))
This build will be buffed a little in 3.9 but mobs are buffed too) with elemental res and armour Ngamahu's Flame's Molten Burst skill now deals 15% more damage. This affects all versions of the item. and Lava Lash from skill tree now has +8% to Fire Damage over time multiplayer.
Hey! I don't understand have we good news or not))
This build will be buffed a little in 3.9 but mobs are buffed too) with elemental res and armour Ngamahu's Flame's Molten Burst skill now deals 15% more damage. This affects all versions of the item. and Lava Lash from skill tree now has +8% to Fire Damage over time multiplayer.
Not gonna have much of an effect due to poing black being nerfed from 50% more to 30% more.
