[3.7] LL RF Scorching Ray Guardian | 19K ES | 52k Armour|1.5 mil dps| Uber Elder & HoGM DEATHLESS

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LAGROSSESIMONE wrote:
The regen you are talking about are number coming from your character ingame sheet.
I am talking about the "Net life regen" information that can be found in PoB. It's simply the substraction of RF degen to your total regen (Time of need buff isn't showed in this situation).


Okay, cool. I will get on PoB when I get around a computer this weekend and check it out. Thx again for all the help, man.
Hello guys

I geared my templar again and i copied the tree of lagrossesimone (superbe pseudo ;) )

The damage is ok but there is a real issue to complete alva mission in t15-16 maps, es is around 16.6k.
What to improve ? (in tree or in gear ?)

My gear :



My PoB link :
https://pastebin.com/w5QuYVMN


Thanks for your advice.
Last edited by Goldberg21#3379 on Aug 8, 2019, 3:25:57 AM
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Goldberg21 wrote:
Hello guys

I geared my templar again and i copied the tree of lagrossesimone (superbe pseudo ;) )

The damage is ok but there is a real issue to complete alva mission in t15-16 maps, es is around 16.6k.
What to improve ? (in tree or in gear ?)

Thanks for your advice.


If the problem is that you can't kill the enemies quick enough you could try swapping determination with malevolence, that was a pretty significant dps increase for me. Another option would be opal rings but those can be very expensive if you want good stats on them. If the problem is tankiness/regen, rumi/basalt over the second ruby flask perhaps? Or could try finding a memory vault with a regen corruption but those can also be quite expensive.
you are right, I'm not really clear. The issue is the dps. Tankiness is awesome.

But killing stuff take a bit too long to succeed with alva. So i ask myself "What am I doing wrong ?"

Opal ring with those stats looks like a robery to me.
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Goldberg21 wrote:
Hello guys

I geared my templar again and i copied the tree of lagrossesimone (superbe pseudo ;) )

The damage is ok but there is a real issue to complete alva mission in t15-16 maps, es is around 16.6k.
What to improve ? (in tree or in gear ?)

My gear :



My PoB link :
https://pastebin.com/w5QuYVMN


Thanks for your advice.


Some items can be improved but it will be extremly expensive imo.

2 minors and 1 expensive changes that can realy help you in incursion event :
- Vaal righteous fire : use it in incursion, it will help a lot in your clear and against architects ;
- Malevolance instead of Determination : +20% more dps it's a huge dps boots ;
- Soul Ripper : in addition to Vaal Righteous Fire, it will improve a lot your clear and your capacity to clean an incursion by providing ~2 cast of VRF per incursion (this still require a bit of skill management to be sure you will be able to use VRF 2 times in a row. Note this is an extremly expensive solution but also a formidable clear speed solution.
Edit / I forgot the most important thing : Get 30-35% move speed boots. Completing Incursion event is strongly linked to your ability to go from on pack of monster to an other in the shortest time. As long as we use moves skill that is based on move speed (shield charge), it's mandatory to have at least 30% move speed.
Last edited by LAGROSSESIMONE#3551 on Aug 11, 2019, 7:10:18 AM
I decked out mine running two curses via +1 curse on chayula (flask curse and blasphemy + flammabiltiy) with aspect of the spider, while running malevolence and you still won't be able to full clear legion encounters most times. Especially when a general spawns. Alva can also be struggle depending on the map mods.

The league mechanic is just not friendly towards this build given how much space you need to cover to be able to clear all the mobs. That being said, this build is so tanky that I got bored playing it haha. It just reached a point where it was not fun to face tank every single attack in the game. With proper usage of VMS, you are for all intents and purposes immortal until delve depth 450+. It's an amazingly tanky build with enough DPS to be able to kill bosses comfortably.
3.8: rip this build
Changes that should affect this build :

Spoiler
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Several Damage over Time-only skills, such as Righteous Fire, Contagion and the Death Aura from Death's Oath, can now break barrels and other objects throughout the world.


Looks like a QOL buff, but don't know if this change how RF apply it damage, and so, if it "hit". I'm quite suspicious about this.

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Righteous Fire

Now deals 35.8 base Fire Damage per second at gem level 1, up to 1541.8 at gem level 20 (previously dealt no base Fire Damage per second).
Enemies now burn for 20% of your maximum Life and Energy Shield per second as Fire Damage at all gem levels (from 40%).
Now gains 1% Burning Damage per 1% gem quality (from 1% Spell Damage per 1% gem quality).


Here come the massive change ...
The dmg based on our ES will be strongly nerfed. But at the same time we gain some flat dmg.

So this will strongly change how we build the character and how our dmg may progress.
Staking ES won't be as rewarding as before in order to improve our dps. So build orientation that were strongly based on mana guardian version will have their dps strongly nerfed. Budget version with low to mid ES may have higher dps than previously on other hand.

So basically gaining level on RF will now be worthy and the new way to go for minmaxing dps. We can assume it will worth it to play Empower.
Rare scepter that provide +2 to all fire skill gems will certainly be the new BiS weapon for this build.

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Scorching Ray

Now deals 11.7 base Fire Damage per second at gem level 1 (from 13), up to 439.4 at gem level 20 (from 488.2).


It's a 11.11% dmg reduction to the gem at lvl 20. We still have to wait to confirm if this nerf is a linear dmg reduction of 11.11% or if it's different for SR lvl 21 and more (with Empower 4 and +1 lvl gems corruption for example).
From information we have, a 6L SR + 4L RF should still provide more dps than a 6L RF + 3-4L SR, but we have to wait until all detailed info on SR dps progression through levels to confirme this.

Even if this should lower our dps for most version of the build, the global +x lvl from scepter may compensate the 11.11% less dmg from the nerf of SR.

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Wands, Sceptres, Staves, Rune Daggers and pure Intelligence Shields can now roll modifiers which affect the levels of all Skill Gems of a certain type, not just those socketed within that item. They can no longer roll the modifers which solely affect socketed gem levels.


Rare scepter with +x lvl to all fire gems will certainly become the new BiS weapons. Doon should still be the way to go in budget version of the build, but it's still hard to say for mid range budget version.
And this new global +1-2 lvl to all fire gems may alow us to compensate the other dps nerf.

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Healthy Mind: Now limited to 1.


This should only affect budget build or minmaxed mana guardian variation of the build.
This build was, most of the time, relying on 1 of this jewel, and it can be easily switched for a rare that will provide lot of offensive stats.

Non listed but notable changes :
- Passive tree changes.
I didn't updated my PoB with the alpha skill tree change yet. So wait & see. From what we can read in the patch note, I don't know yet how much the tree will changes, but there will be change (probably a lot, depending on dmg multiplier change concerning burning dmg) ;
- Damage multiplier change concerning Burning damage.
I didn't checked in detail the patch note on this part, so I don't have much to say about this.


Personal thoughts :
3.8 does not looks like super friendly with this build. Still, I don't think this build is dead. But 3.8 should not be such an OP & funny league for LL SR/RF builds.

I will come back latter after PoB update, and after doing some test.
Last edited by LAGROSSESIMONE#3551 on Sep 5, 2019, 5:28:49 AM
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Inb4 "is this still viable". I sold all my gear before patch notes so i can not tell from a practical standpoint i give my hopes to lagrossesimon.

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