[3.16][HC][ON BREAK] Caustic Arrow Raider, DoT Focused | Tanky | 6k+ Health | All Content | In-depth
For Endurance charge generation on trade-league player, if you can't that get it in your boots you may also try The Red Dream jewel from Chayula breach (Not sure if its too rare for SSF players).
If you place it near the Survivalist node you can get at least 11% chance to gain Endurance charge on kill with the cost of 2 passives points. |
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You could also try a small cluster or megalomaniac with enduring composure, extra armor isn't very useful but the endurance charge on getting hit could plug the gap that gets created after 1st hit is lowered by Kintsugi / Wind Dancer / Crab. Theoretically chance to get hit twice in a row is very low with such high evasion and dodge, so you might find it redundant. I also liked the idea someone posted few pages ago where if you path to duelist area you can use thread of hope and pick disciple of the unyielding + disciple of the slaughter. However it's hard to path there now with all the cluster jewels stealing the spotlight. From what Danka said, you can also get Lethal Pride jewel and if you're lucky, or try with enough of them, one of the added mods is "5% chance to gain an Endurance Charge on Kill" which is probably the least passive point investment solution, and you can get other useful mods from it. | |
" " I'm absolutely amazed by your patience and dedication Viktranka. Length of this post surpasses around half of the "guides" you can find on forums, and all for a single person. I was also triggered by that comment which i've read shortly after it was posted. I started writing reply but i quickly realized there's not much point to it because... none of it makes sense. I don't have only his comment in mind, but his background too.
My take on this situation
Something to note, our friend here already played CA Raider before (pre 3.9 patch) and almost certainly used my guide as well. On that character he actually stick to gear and passive recommendation quite well. Both current and old Raiders are 2 highest level characters ever, only beaten by his lvl 91 necro. He certainly wouldn't play it again and commited this much if he didn't enjoy it before, right? Then what's the point of suddenly writing such negative comment?
Best theory i've devised is that he likes the build, so he tried it again but with some "improvements" that will suit him. Based on what he did to the build, he likely doesn't have much knowledge about PoE. However since Delirium is extremely deadly and 3.9 also bumped up difficulty of the game, his low hp version quickly backfired. Now he's angry and doesn't want to accept it's mostly his fault. But what do i know, there's many possible reasons. I might be completely wrong. The worst part of all of it is that he probably didn't care to check if someone replied with any advice. He's still doing his thing. " That's right, but for only a single hit. In nearly all cases you'll only need one to survive majority of big hits. You also have to remember that slams aren't the only dangerous thing in this game. Big pack of spell casting monsters is also extremely deadly. Rare body armour allows to craft 10% spell dodge which deals with this problem. It can also roll other good mods and might allow to squeeze more damage/defensive mods on other gear pieces. There's a lot of options to choose from. Obviously using both 20% less damage sources is still viable, especially with good corruptions on Kintsugi. You simply have a real choice now compared to previous "you can, but you shouldn't". " Lethal Pride also grants endurance charge generation while giving many more useful stats that boost survivability. You can get end charge generation on boots and talisman too. Using The Red Dream feels like a waste, since jewels are the most efficient nodes on the tree. I played last 5 leagues in SSF. There's almost no way to get The Red Dream. I managed to get 2 Chayula breachstones, both from league mechanic. Overall, unless you get lucky there's no way to reliably get it. Lethal Pride, while also gated by RNG, is mostly a matter of time if you target farm it. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3053600 - My Guides
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"Tbh, if someone asks how to improve a build, I usually try to help if there are some glaring mistakes, and the 3 most common "noob" mistakes is see is usually low lvl gems, low hp and crap flasks. That's literally three quarters of all "advice". I can see your point of not wanting to give "gear advice" or gear checks, as 90% of them are "here's my gear, what do I buy next" which often screams "I'm not taking responsibility for my own purchases" or "I'm too lazy to reread gear section in the guide and check what I'm still missing / have sub par placeholder for". Some of them might make sense because it's slightly more complicated problem, or the person might be very new to the game and not understand the idea of 1) POB comparing your character what's the bigger upgrade 2) spending currency efficiently (there are so many cases of "I spent 20ex and the result doesn't reflect it" and it's clear they overpaid / got scammed). What I dislike is senseless bashing that I see in many guides ("this build is shit"), and it's even more insulting when it's a fully fleshed guide with levelling and crafting sections and not just "build showcase" with "here's my POB, enjoy". I've seen in everywhere, doesn't matter if it's ice shot, arc witch or here. People should have some respect for the build creators if you can clearly see they put effort in it (they can criticize all they want lazy and / or POB warrior "guides"). If they have legit criticism or suggest improvements, that's ok. If it's "I don't like this build" or "It's not as strong as (insert current meta build)" then all that can be said is "play something else then". Nobody holds a gun to anyone's head, if it's your character, do what you want with it. That also applies to "artistic liberty" that people apply to their builds. But they shouldn't blame the guide for the state of the character if it's significantly changed, for example if someone takes life based spell caster guide, turns it into low life for more damage but forgets to unspec all the life nodes and replace them with energy shield nodes it's not build guide's "fault" the character "feels squishy". Even if the guy in question never reads the advice, maybe it will help some other people to improve their problems or at least understand that if you change 20 different things in the build it's no longer the build you followed the guide for and now it's your responsibility to make it work, not the guide's author. | |
Hi all, great guide -
I'm a pretty experienced player but I've never played a serious bow build in 2000+ hours, and it's finally time! I've always been turned off by these 4k life builds and the sense that you're just on the edge of death ALL THE TIME and it's never appealed to me, so I was looking for something with a bit more survivability than your standard 'gogo fast' ranger build. I'm not a hardcore player, I just hate dying. So, this looks really fun, and I LOVE the raider QOL, especially for a league start, where you can pick up all sorts of speed for 'free' via ascendancy while still being tanky. I can't help but be worried a bit about damage, though - I'm not looking to hit a million Sirus dps in the first week, but my goal in recent leagues was to comfortably farm early yellow maps on a five link. Is that a realistic goal just running CA with budget league start gear? In Delirium I ran a vortex occultist and that obviously tops out its damage fairly low as well, but it was perfectly fine running a five link through yellow tier maps. If Raider can accomplish something similar to that, even a little slower, as long as it's comparable I'd prefer to run Raider. But if it's really going to struggle on a five link without significant +gem level, I'm thinking I might prefer Pathfinder. I guess I'm just wondering if anyone could share their more up to date impressions of how the Raider's damage feels in a league start environment. (I promise I've read through a bunch of the thread, I was just hoping for some new info - and I realize Delirium was ridiculous and maybe doesn't represent a more 'normal' league start environment considering how tanky those mobs were). |
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"Well, if essence drain or bane can be a good league starter, so should be caustic arrow. It's starter damage is higher (I'm not counting the fact ed / bane can abuse low life because you will not have easy shavs at league start), and all of these builds have the downside they can't burst bosses. I'm not experienced in SSF so you'd have to wait on Danka's comment on that (or just find them in past posts in the thread with suitable SSF tips). But in trade league it's extremely easy to get an early 6 link so I'm not sure why would you restrict yourself to a 5-link. There are 2 sets of cards, "porcupine" and "imperial legacy" that can be bought or farmed for a premade 6-link. There are also people selling those bases for basically the price of a divine orb. That also means you don't need to farm a tabula and can use chest for pure stats. Kintsugi, Cherrubim's Maleficence or even Carcass Jack are fairly cheap without 6-link that you don't need (afaik if you follow this guide to the letter you don't need 6-link chest until you have a lvl 5 awakened curse on hit, which is VERY late in the progression of a character). Also the moment corrupted lvl 20 caustic arrows start appearing on the market within reasonable price, you should insta buy them especially if you aren't a mega fast grinder and yours is far off from being 20 (if it's lvl 17 or 18, it's a massive damage upgrade). Lvl 21s are expensive early on but lvl 20 "failed upgrades" drop in price extremely quick. Another tool we have at our disposal is Shrieking Essence of Dread for +2 to bow gems, this league they were very cheap. You don't need the deafening version, it doesn't do anything more so don't bother. You can also vendor 3 screaming ones for 1 shrieking. Casters don't have this option, the "easiest" equivalent for them would be dual wielding wands with +1 to respective type of spells. Chaos spell casters can use cane of unraveling but that doesn't solve the problem of lack of a 6-link unless you're having a tabula or something similar. So yeah, in general I think early league progression gives us a lot of tools to headstart the build. If we get another league that's spitting 6-links left and right, buying 6-link silverbranch and prophecy to upgrade it to silverbough is a very budget option until you unlock all the necessary crafts and get exalts to made "the endgame bow". I rolled a CA Occultist in Metamorph, due to outside circumstances I couldn't play much in that league, but with fairly low investment I managed to get to lvl 90 and 24 challenges with very little effort to not completely waste the league. I think it's a fairly underrated skill because people focus on builds that can clear whole screens with 1 click and do 50 million dps on shaper, but they gloss over the fact it often requires extreme currency investment to push the build to that stage. I don't know what's gonna be the "meta" and "broken OP" build of the next league, there always tends to be one, but you can't plan around starting with it because the meta isn't stabilized on day 1. I haven't played vortex because I'm allergic to builds that "can't do ele reflect" (well theoretically it can if you either use sybil's lament or kite mobs into pre placed vortex but it's cumbersome), but from what I know you don't have much control over where it's placed, it's either under you, or you have to resort to 2-button play with frostbolt to place it away. In that aspect I think caustic arrow is more convenient because you control where you place it. You also have tools like arrow nova, gmp, extra arrows from bow / quiver / dying sun if you want to invest in in later on, so that should help with clear. Arrow nova / gmp lower your damage though so I personally play without because I hate gem swaps before bosses (basically bane of every strike melee skill as well). You might have to choose your content wisely though, stuff like opening whole legion or doing alva incursions with low gear might not happen (also alva missions tend to massacre you if you run -60 chaos res). I heard it's pretty good for delve though, I haven't really "delved deep" but I've heard of people who took CA Raider to 600-800 depth and farmed there efficiently (after gear investment ofc). But yes, it's definitely different from "typical bow builds" that have to worry about weapon damage, accuracy, crit and so forth to perform well. | |
Excellent, thanks - I'm so unused to idea of an early six link bow, you're right of course I will keep it in mind. And good tip on the early 21 gem, I'll keep an eye out.
I think I'm going to give the Raider a shot and see how it goes, worst case I can spend a few points and respec, and I really don't want to play Trickster. |
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Hey, here is my rip clip at lvl 96. I made a mistake backtrack to mob skill :D
https://youtu.be/mW9DXH1qfTA Last edited by LunaTie on Jun 12, 2020, 1:57:50 PM
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" If a build is good for SSF then you shouldn't be worried at all, and i played it 5 leagues in a row now. I usually get to high tier yellow maps on +2 4-link before i finally get my hands on 6-link (i completely skip 5-link). Not the most pleasant experience on bosses but it certainly clears fine. That's just nature of DoT builds. If you're playing trade league then you should easily be able to collect full stack of Imperial Legacy. Farm a little yourself and buy the rest from other people. Card is common enough to be really cheap. In the end, whether or not damage is sufficient is purely subjective. " Once i saw that abyss, i already knew what's going to happen. Map mods scaled monster's damage perfectly and it also had extra phys aura on top. To be fair you almost survived with that 8k life. Maybe if you had Steelskin-CWDT or fortify in a bottle annointment you could've live. Level 96 in HCSSF is quite big accomplishment nonetheless. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3053600 - My Guides Last edited by DankawSL on Jun 12, 2020, 8:13:08 PM
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Hey all i have been out of the game for quite some time. Just wondering if my gear and build are a little out of date and if there are any ways for me to upgrade on what i have. Cheers!!
GEAR BUILD
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IGN: Elem_Mental Lets all drink red bull jump out of a plane and hope for the best. Last edited by The_Rain_Man on Jun 15, 2020, 6:57:14 PM
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