[3.10] From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide

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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:
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RoseEsque wrote:
How feasible would a pure phys build of this be? With Pride, F&S, Dread Banner, Impale Support & Brutality? I really hate reflect and I'm imagining you die pretty easily on ele reflect maps.


I don't understand your question. What you are describing IS EXACTLY this build. With the exception of brutality which I'm not using in order to use Atziri's and Sin's. Pure phys and chaos. No reflect. If you want to use different flasks then use brutality. Check the FAQ.


*Facepalm*


I forgot chaos doesn't get reflected. Ignore me. I think the hatred aura also gave me the idea that you may be using elemental damage somewhere else.
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Karibean12 wrote:
Hi, I have been out of PoE for about 2 years since 3.0 I think. I'm planning on following your build this season since always loved builds with the scourge

Do the bonus of scourge stack? I remember running a rare in the offhand, I think because back then Vaal Pact made Scourge leech not stack or something


I think you're mistaken here. The damage bonus of the Scourges always stacked. There's been no change there. If it didn't stack it would say "with this weapon". Similar to the wording on HOWA.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Hand_of_Wisdom_and_Action

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RoseEsque wrote:

I forgot chaos doesn't get reflected. Ignore me. I think the hatred aura also gave me the idea that you may be using elemental damage somewhere else.


Hatred is one version of the build. See the gem section, there's a pride version too.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

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RoseEsque wrote:

I forgot chaos doesn't get reflected. Ignore me. I think the hatred aura also gave me the idea that you may be using elemental damage somewhere else.


Hatred is one version of the build. See the gem section, there's a pride version too.


Oh I saw it, I even saw you mention Brutality somewhere else but you wrote that it would remove the flask damage so you don't run it. I kinda had a brain fart and didn't fully understand what I read :).
I added a notice in the gem section to make it even more clear about the two versions of the build.

Yes, I mention brutality in the FAQ. If you want to use it check the flask section for your choices. I don't think it's worth it but you can try it out.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:
I added a notice in the gem section to make it even more clear about the two versions of the build.

Yes, I mention brutality in the FAQ. If you want to use it check the flask section for your choices. I don't think it's worth it but you can try it out.


Thanks for your patience and sorry for the trouble.
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Hatred is one version of the build. See the gem section, there's a pride version too.


Hi! I'm thinking on follow your build this 3.8 league. I like ST a lot but never tried as league starter.

What do u recomend? Pride version or "old" version?

Thx for your time, good build :D
I suggest going Assassin and investing on poison for this. I noticed that the scourge has a pretty low phys roll therefore it might be ideal to go with the new skill cobra lash or venom gyre as the gem itself provides flat chaos damage (almost as much as a 'Added Chaos Damage' gem).

Looking at the slayer nerfs, the crit goes only up to 7.5% base and since the claw is already 6.3% base, that's only a 1.2% increase. But for assassin, you can not only get reliable power charge generation (4 charge = 200% increased crit chance) but you end up with +4% base crit by taking Deadly Infusion and Toxic Delivery ending up with 10.3% base crit.

I'm not sure if the wiki is updated but apparently it says that the minion damage does apply to poison as well.

Can't really say for sure that assassin + new skills is better but looks like i'm going to go for it and will let you guys know of the progress as league starts.

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Hello :3
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ezyanfarihin wrote:
I suggest going Assassin and investing on poison for this. I noticed that the scourge has a pretty low phys roll therefore it might be ideal to go with the new skill cobra lash or venom gyre as the gem itself provides flat chaos damage (almost as much as a 'Added Chaos Damage' gem).

Looking at the slayer nerfs, the crit goes only up to 7.5% base and since the claw is already 6.3% base, that's only a 1.2% increase. But for assassin, you can not only get reliable power charge generation (4 charge = 200% increased crit chance) but you end up with +4% base crit by taking Deadly Infusion and Toxic Delivery ending up with 10.3% base crit.

I'm not sure if the wiki is updated but apparently it says that the minion damage does apply to poison as well.

Can't really say for sure that assassin + new skills is better but looks like i'm going to go for it and will let you guys know of the progress as league starts.


Only thing you missed is that we're not taking that ascendancy node so the change to it doesn't affect this build.

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sign4l wrote:


What do u recomend? Pride version or "old" version?

Thx for your time, good build :D


Pride is certainly better for bosses. Hatred is a bit better at clearing. Depends on what you prefer I suppose.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios#0275 on Sep 6, 2019, 10:56:22 AM
That is a great build. I didn't get to play it in 3.7 and so I#M very happy that it didn't got nerfed, leveling it right now.
Only thing I think you missed: You took both the 4% lifenodes in the "Thick skin"-cluster, I think it would be better to spec out of one of those and instead take the 4% increased life, 6% increased armor and evasion node right at duelist starting area (above "Mana flows")
Otherwise I would call it a perfect build.
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Eschor wrote:
That is a great build. I didn't get to play it in 3.7 and so I#M very happy that it didn't got nerfed, leveling it right now.
Only thing I think you missed: You took both the 4% lifenodes in the "Thick skin"-cluster, I think it would be better to spec out of one of those and instead take the 4% increased life, 6% increased armor and evasion node right at duelist starting area (above "Mana flows")
Otherwise I would call it a perfect build.


How would you take thick skin and twin terrors then ? What you describe needs pathing over them.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
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Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
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