[3.10] From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide

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AwesomesausegamIng wrote:
I was curious about two things, would you ever consider blood magic or does that cost too much damage also would you consider cherubims maleficence?


Blood magic is too far away. It's good for phys builds that are not crit based and go into the marauder area. I don't see how you can work it into this build.
About cherubim's maleficence I've already answered a few pages back. I don't understand how anyone thinks it's better that the armours I suggest in the guide.

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Jambe wrote:
Would this build be a good choice for one of the two new impale physical attacks in 3.5? With some changes to make it a sword-focused tree?


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dingleberryman wrote:
Thoughts on using lancing steel with this?


Different skill, different weapons, different tree. I don't see how it could be considered "this build". You can make a new build based on this I suppose.

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Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios#0275 on Dec 6, 2018, 6:57:26 AM
How good do you think it is really for SSF? I'm always a bit scared of melee builds in SSF because I fear I won't get a decent weapon. Can't just buy a cheap unique claw :/
Updated the guide for 3.5. Nothing has really changed. We'll look at War Banner but that's about it. If any new uniques come up I'll add them but this is unlikely. GGG seems to have forgotten claws even exist in this game.

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MMCShiNi wrote:
How good do you think it is really for SSF? I'm always a bit scared of melee builds in SSF because I fear I won't get a decent weapon. Can't just buy a cheap unique claw :/


No uniques are required for this to work. None. What more do you need to make it work in SSF ? Yes getting Wasps or Scourges is very nice but you can use a rare claw.
Since you've chosen to play SSF you're much more a slave to RNG than regular players no matter what build you chose.
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How much are the Scourge claws going for usually in a fresh league?
I've also added a section about HC since people seem interested in trying this. It could work with some changes but someone will have to test it.

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OskieBoy wrote:
How much are the Scourge claws going for usually in a fresh league?


They're a guardian item so they're expensive at first. But you're fine with a Wasp's nest. After prices go down they're a few c. In 3.5 they are more rare but we don't know how much. They haven't been buffed so the rarity change shouldn't be huge.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

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MMCShiNi wrote:
How good do you think it is really for SSF? I'm always a bit scared of melee builds in SSF because I fear I won't get a decent weapon. Can't just buy a cheap unique claw :/


No uniques are required for this to work. None. What more do you need to make it work in SSF ? Yes getting Wasps or Scourges is very nice but you can use a rare claw.
Since you've chosen to play SSF you're much more a slave to RNG than regular players no matter what build you chose.


Thanks for the answer. What stats would look for on the offhand weapon using rare weapons? Since the weapon damage stats are local and we don't really profit from X% gain dmg as ele I'm not sure if using a shield would be better with high life and res until I can farm scourge claws. Ofc you would lose the dual wield bonus which is a lot :/
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:
I've also added a section about HC since people seem interested in trying this. It could work with some changes but someone will have to test it.


I was one of those people asking about HC/SSFHC so I really appreciate you doing that - probably take your advice and take Vitality Void + Heart of Oak + Phase Acro.

If you/others have any suggestions as the league progresses, both from a gear/tree perspective for us SSFHC, would love to hear :).

Goodluck all!
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MMCShiNi wrote:
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

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MMCShiNi wrote:
How good do you think it is really for SSF? I'm always a bit scared of melee builds in SSF because I fear I won't get a decent weapon. Can't just buy a cheap unique claw :/


No uniques are required for this to work. None. What more do you need to make it work in SSF ? Yes getting Wasps or Scourges is very nice but you can use a rare claw.
Since you've chosen to play SSF you're much more a slave to RNG than regular players no matter what build you chose.


Thanks for the answer. What stats would look for on the offhand weapon using rare weapons? Since the weapon damage stats are local and we don't really profit from X% gain dmg as ele I'm not sure if using a shield would be better with high life and res until I can farm scourge claws. Ofc you would lose the dual wield bonus which is a lot :/


No don't go for a shield. It will reduce your damage a lot. ST alternates between both hands so you need the same kind of stats on both weapons. It's simple, get as much pDPS as possible. % phys, added phys, crit multi, attack speed. The usual stuff.
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Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios#0275 on Dec 7, 2018, 8:46:50 AM
Greetings and salutation, Master Aias.

First of all, this build looks and sounds amazing and I am highly eager to try it in the Betrayal season!

Now with no substancial changes coming with todays patch you already noted that the passive skill tree will probably stay the same, which is great.

Since you say in your introductory PROs that this is a 2-button-build (which is awesome!) and the main attack (Spectral Thrwo) is a projectile skill, I was thinking if maybe it would be possible to perhaps swap it with one of the new projectile skills that are Shattering Steel or Lancing Steel.

I'm a returner to PoE and by far no expert but I would love to try out the new attack skill and sice theres quite a few points in this build's passive skill tree that support projectile damage and speed I was wondering if this might possibly work.

Thank you so much for all the work you put into this build! I really can't wait to put it to the test!
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PrincessOfAsgard wrote:
Greetings and salutation, Master Aias.

First of all, this build looks and sounds amazing and I am highly eager to try it in the Betrayal season!

Now with no substancial changes coming with todays patch you already noted that the passive skill tree will probably stay the same, which is great.

Since you say in your introductory PROs that this is a 2-button-build (which is awesome!) and the main attack (Spectral Thrwo) is a projectile skill, I was thinking if maybe it would be possible to perhaps swap it with one of the new projectile skills that are Shattering Steel or Lancing Steel.

I'm a returner to PoE and by far no expert but I would love to try out the new attack skill and sice theres quite a few points in this build's passive skill tree that support projectile damage and speed I was wondering if this might possibly work.

Thank you so much for all the work you put into this build! I really can't wait to put it to the test!


You can't use them with claws. You need a sword or axe so you have to change the tree. I suppose you can try because we pass next to the sword cluster. Don't know how well it'll work though especially on bosses or how well it will synergize with PB or what gems you'd need to support it. So... probably needs a different build. Also GGG has made the Champion the impale/banner designated class.
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