[3.10] From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide

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insangel0001 wrote:
Hello i am very instersting in 2 builds your "gladiator Bladestorm" and this. Which do you think will be better for a newbie (i just got 1 ex from my luck)?

Thank you


Just got into mid tier yellow maps using this build. I highly recommend it. Wasp Nests are 2c each at the moment. Very easy playstyle. Whirl around clear pack, repeat.
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M2theAGGOT wrote:
Couple of questions, I started as Hatred/HoP and its been great. I am thinking of switching to Impale/pride soon. Was wondering what your chance to impale on hit is/does it matter what the impale chance is? And how mandatory is the "25% chance to impale while using pride" watchers eye for the impale setup?


Impale chance is important because you want to reach maximum impales (5 default) as fast as possible. It works even without the watcher's eye but the advantage over Hatred is smaller. It will lower your clear speed a bit though but increase boss damage. I'd say level the necessary gems and try both.
As for Impale chance it's 40 (gem) + 22 (banner) but if you plant the banner with 50 stages you get another 10.

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insangel0001 wrote:
Hello i am very instersting in 2 builds your "gladiator Bladestorm" and this. Which do you think will be better for a newbie (i just got 1 ex from my luck)?

Thank you


This build is cheaper to make. Should be easier for a new player too. Not that the other is very complicated or anything but I'd start with this one.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios#0275 on Mar 16, 2020, 7:23:21 AM
Thanks for the quick reply. For some reason I thought impale gem was only 25% chance, and read somewhere that 50% is the bare minimum. My mistake. Easily the best league starter I've tried.
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:
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M2theAGGOT wrote:
Couple of questions, I started as Hatred/HoP and its been great. I am thinking of switching to Impale/pride soon. Was wondering what your chance to impale on hit is/does it matter what the impale chance is? And how mandatory is the "25% chance to impale while using pride" watchers eye for the impale setup?


Impale chance is important because you want to reach maximum impales (5 default) as fast as possible. It works even without the watcher's eye but the advantage over Hatred is smaller. It will lower your clear speed a bit though but increase boss damage. I'd say level the necessary gems and try both.
As for Impale chance it's 40 (gem) + 22 (banner) but if you plant the banner with 50 stages you get another 10.

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insangel0001 wrote:
Hello i am very instersting in 2 builds your "gladiator Bladestorm" and this. Which do you think will be better for a newbie (i just got 1 ex from my luck)?

Thank you


This build is cheaper to make. Should be easier for a new player too. Not that the other is very complicated or anything but I'd start with this one.


Thank for reply. Have some question:

1.What is prioritize gem in main link for impale style?

2. When is best time to take vaal pact?
Last edited by insangel0001#1213 on Mar 16, 2020, 8:06:30 AM
Does The Retch belt work with the impale version? Or does brutality cancel out the chaos? I'm assuming the latter. Its wording is strange with "applies to enemies".

Edit: Nevermind. It does.
Last edited by M2theAGGOT#7261 on Mar 16, 2020, 1:26:45 PM
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insangel0001 wrote:


Thank for reply. Have some question:

1.What is prioritize gem in main link for impale style?

2. When is best time to take vaal pact?


You mean what to take out if you have a 5L? Damage on full life. I'd say take VP after you finish with the uber lab.

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M2theAGGOT wrote:
Does The Retch belt work with the impale version? Or does brutality cancel out the chaos? I'm assuming the latter. Its wording is strange with "applies to enemies".

Edit: Nevermind. It does.


Yeah of course it does. Brutality means only physical damage. The source doesn't matter.

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M2theAGGOT wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply. For some reason I thought impale gem was only 25% chance, and read somewhere that 50% is the bare minimum. My mistake. Easily the best league starter I've tried.


Well if you have less than 50 it will still work on bosses but it will be useless on mobs. Glad you're enjoying it.

From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios#0275 on Mar 17, 2020, 9:37:58 AM
Hi really nice guide i am enjoying it :)

2 quick questins:

1. Should i be using Vaal ST or noraml ST ?

2. Should i use Greater Multiple Projectils or Slower projectils?

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Grotar wrote:
Hi really nice guide i am enjoying it :)

2 quick questins:

1. Should i be using Vaal ST or noraml ST ?

2. Should i use Greater Multiple Projectils or Slower projectils?



The vaal ST gem gives you the regular skill too. GMP is for clear, SP is for bosses.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
still enjoying the build!


two questions got me...

I dont have the enlighten gems so far, thats why I m still using HOP and Hatred.

So my questions are: For my current setup is brutality a yes or no (since ist deleting all elemental Damage also from hatred?)

and if no, is the old crit support gem in then for brutality?

Ty very much, I Need to work on enlighten, wanna try out the "new" playstyle!
double post due to lag. sorry
Last edited by Bragadogdrul#2316 on Mar 18, 2020, 7:25:53 AM

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