Regarding Lab re-entry and Chris' recent statements about DCs

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goetzjam wrote:
Can't be "fixed" because its abuseable then.



I don't like the idea that we are holding back the game because people will abuse it. This feels like a poor way of thinking.
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suszterpatt wrote:
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SlippyCheeze wrote:
If you can't get packets reliably back and forth to a game server without problems, with an otherwise idle network, then your problem isn't that GGG designed for some secret "super" Internet, it is that they designed for super-boring regular Internet, and you don't have even that. Like, normal Internet has no packet loss, and very low variance in latency. That is ... just normal. That is what normal is.

Your description of "normal" net is describing something that is super-broken. You are ... IDK, maybe in your experience this is normal. Maybe you and the people you know just accept that this terrible, horrible, no good, very bad service is just how the Internet is, because you have never had "normal" service.

Call it what you want, but that's what a lot of people around the world have. Not because they don't want to pay for any better, but because that's the level of infrastructure where they live. Seems kind of unfair to punish them for it quite so harshly, wouldn't you say?


I'm well aware of the general quality of Internet service around the world, I assure you, having worked at several companies that make up substantial portions of overall Internet.

I'm sympathetic if you, personally, have infrastructure that poor, but ultimately, no: most of the world don't live with the terrible infrastructure that is common in poorer parts of Africa, war-destroyed countries, and the USA. Even in those locations, that isn't as common as you like to suggest.

Tell me this, though: what happened when you went to your ISP support team about the issue, carrying proof that their infrastructure was causing problems with communication?
Last edited by SlippyCheeze#7036 on Jan 16, 2018, 2:45:30 PM
I never had to.

Care to answer the question?
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e1337donkey wrote:
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goetzjam wrote:
Can't be "fixed" because its abuseable then.



I don't like the idea that we are holding back the game because people will abuse it. This feels like a poor way of thinking.


Its not holding the game back, its just a matter of fact. You can't expect GGG to purposely do anything that can or will be abused if given the opportunity to.
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285

FeelsBadMan

Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.
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goetzjam wrote:
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e1337donkey wrote:
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goetzjam wrote:
Can't be "fixed" because its abuseable then.



I don't like the idea that we are holding back the game because people will abuse it. This feels like a poor way of thinking.


Its not holding the game back, its just a matter of fact. You can't expect GGG to purposely do anything that can or will be abused if given the opportunity to.

And nobody's asking them to, so where exactly are you going with this?
you cannot compare the incidents of 0,x percent of the users being kicked in a side quest like lab with the same amount of users being kicked out of the whole game.

apples <==> oranges

they can wait for a day when their provider pulls the finger out his arse to fix some routers and do the labyrinth.
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cronus wrote:
you cannot compare the incidents of 0,x percent of the users being kicked in a side quest like lab with the same amount of users being kicked out of the whole game.

apples <==> oranges

they can wait for a day when their provider pulls the finger out his arse to fix some routers and do the labyrinth.

What if they want to farm uber lab?
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suszterpatt wrote:
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cronus wrote:
you cannot compare the incidents of 0,x percent of the users being kicked in a side quest like lab with the same amount of users being kicked out of the whole game.

apples <==> oranges

they can wait for a day when their provider pulls the finger out his arse to fix some routers and do the labyrinth.

What if they want to farm uber lab?


good point. you win
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