F the labyrinth

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Nishrek wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

We're waiting dude. Where's the new Lab? :)

Sure, he will incorporate it in GGG's heads, by the power of telepathy.

BTW I love how Lab defenders claim that is "optional". Well, as much optional as using armor or weapon. You do not have to use this gear at all...

Uh, it's much more optional than using armour or weapons. You can easily get well into maps without the ascendancy points...

I'm sure that one can easily get well into maps with only using one ring or a bow without any quiver or no helmet or no weapon or no body armor. Which is more optional? Not even sure what you mean by more optional unless you mean it would easier to do without the points. If that's what is meant not even sure how relevant that even is to Nishrek's point?

Lab optional? LuL

No matter how hard i (used to)love this content it is not optional.
If GGG decides out of nowhere that after dying you must pick up 1000 fragment scrolls from the floor in a huge maze map or u can;t play that would still be optional. You can do this or uninstall game, definitely not something that makes any sense.


So...
I agree points must be removed from lab.

Because of crying kids lab has been nerfed so hard i barely show any interest running it.
Profit is not enough, i can make huge amount of currency just from mapping. Before 3.0 changes lab was so much more interesting:
-ability to drastically increase loot&difficulty by using darkshrines

-looking for nice white corrupted bases

-picking 100x scroll of wisdoms or looking for a mob with unique item

Now it's like run from point A to B, click on chest and pick rewards. BORING...

Remove asc. points from lab
Remove all labs besides merc and uber lab (i think some people farm merc lab in ssf)
Improve uber lab by adding optional ability to increase difficulty, make Uber lab real Uber Lab.

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Xavathos wrote:

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Pyrokar wrote:

Also i am not gonna dignify the retarded statements of "you just want stuff for free" with a response. Think of something new to troll these threads with.

Lab is like the vegetable of PoE and you're the kid that doesn't want to eat it. Lucky for you, you don't have to! You'll be less healthy, 8 Ascendancy points less to be exact, but you don't have to eat it.

What's that? Oh yes, optional.

Lab may be optional for you. So don't run it.

Lab is loathsome content for me and so I choose to give that feedback to GGG.

If you don't like me giving that feedback then sorry for you. Complain to GGG that they shouldn't have a Feedback and Suggestions forum.

If I understand GGG (Chris) correctly, 3.2 is aimed as a ascendancy rework release.

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So, what we're going to do, in regard to revamping old content, is interleave it with the schedule. Obviously, we're going to target the most important stuff first, but there are so many things where we're working at the moment that are targeted to go alongside leagues, so the next league includes some revamping of old content. For example, we promised an Ascendancy rework. The Ascendancy rework done in the next league is extensive, far more so than we've promised. There's a lot of work there, and people are going to love it.

So something is going to happen, the question is what

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Dharall wrote:

If I understand GGG (Chris) correctly, 3.2 is aimed as a ascendancy rework release.

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So, what we're going to do, in regard to revamping old content, is interleave it with the schedule. Obviously, we're going to target the most important stuff first, but there are so many things where we're working at the moment that are targeted to go alongside leagues, so the next league includes some revamping of old content. For example, we promised an Ascendancy rework. The Ascendancy rework done in the next league is extensive, far more so than we've promised. There's a lot of work there, and people are going to love it.

So something is going to happen, the question is what

Added the Apex Labyrinth.
Level 82 content, on the top floor of the current map, with 8 new traps and its own 10 trials, randomly found in T11+ maps. :D

Hahhaa!

Okie that made my day :)

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Dharall wrote:

If I understand GGG (Chris) correctly, 3.2 is aimed as a ascendancy rework release.

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So, what we're going to do, in regard to revamping old content, is interleave it with the schedule. Obviously, we're going to target the most important stuff first, but there are so many things where we're working at the moment that are targeted to go alongside leagues, so the next league includes some revamping of old content. For example, we promised an Ascendancy rework. The Ascendancy rework done in the next league is extensive, far more so than we've promised. There's a lot of work there, and people are going to love it.

So something is going to happen, the question is what

What's the source for this quote?

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EnjoyTheJourney wrote:

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Dharall wrote:

If I understand GGG (Chris) correctly, 3.2 is aimed as a ascendancy rework release.

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So, what we're going to do, in regard to revamping old content, is interleave it with the schedule. Obviously, we're going to target the most important stuff first, but there are so many things where we're working at the moment that are targeted to go alongside leagues, so the next league includes some revamping of old content. For example, we promised an Ascendancy rework. The Ascendancy rework done in the next league is extensive, far more so than we've promised. There's a lot of work there, and people are going to love it.

So something is going to happen, the question is what

What's the source for this quote?

Ah sorry for that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/7qc08a/chris_wilson_interview_with_zizaran_jan_13_2018/

Transcript: https://pastebin.com/iHZxyJw5

Thank you for the links.

Not too long ago Charan indicated in a forum post that no further changes would be made to lab (he apparently has direct ties to at least one senior GGG executive and he was likely just passing along what he was told). With the window of time not having been particularly long since that was passed along, it's hard to see what they might have been able to do that would move the needle very much on the current experience.

Perhaps I'll turn out to be wrong. But, this seems likely to be an effort to be seen to be doing something big, when it's probably going to be just another set of incremental changes that don't change the underlying reasons why so many players dislike or hate lab.

Another round of incremental changes would leave us basically where we are right now. If that happens, then ascending toward divinity through "Italian Plumber" platform gameplay will remain a deterrent to making alts for lots for players and it'll continue to exacerbate ongoing challenges with player retention.

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EnjoyTheJourney wrote:

If that happens, then ascending toward divinity through "Italian Plumber" platform gameplay will remain a deterrent to making alts for lots for players and it'll continue to exacerbate ongoing challenges with player retention.