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I had been working on a Bow build of this the last few days since it got leaked. With no changes to the tree this is the best I could come up with at level 90. ~750k shaper dps with very reasonable gear.
Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/pmH3ecTX You want to stack flat ele damage and scale that through the attack speed you get from Jugg. Everything in my pob was gear taken from harbinger league which I played for 3 weeks so it should all be easily attainable. The only exception to that is the gloves and I made up some accuracy jewels. I assume crit multi jewels are better but those are always very expensive. The build isn't ele weakness capped atm but that can be adjusted. I assume the attack speed yriel's is better but that buff isn't calculated in PoB anyway. I had the flat phys in harb league for doomfletch. I mocked up basically the same build with the three ranger acendancies. All three builds were just straight up better than the Jugg build. Deadeye had 20%-%30 more dps 150 less hp, better aoe, and 10% less run speed. Both pathfinder and raider had about 5% more dps, way more run speed, and more quality of life with the elemental immunity for about 150hp less. Straight up stacking as much accuracy as possible for bows is not worth it. There is a breakeven point where it becomes not worth it from taking points on the actual tree. I assume that point is when accuracy hits 95% but I haven't played with the math enough. Overall it looks like a Jugg is a better league-starter than ranger and worse when you get to the high-end. I'll probably run the marauder version to start using sunder for most of the leveling. |
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Hey guys. Do you think you can combine this thoughts about accuracy-crit-marauder with the new affix option to add cold damage per dextery? Even if this is restricted to bows, the combination of attackspeed, crit and cold damage seems good for me. Dex and Accuracy have synergy effects and you can push both values in the bottom area of the skilltrea, where you also find some good cold-nodes. A howa-frost build?
Lets say you have 1k dex. That gives you 500-900 added cold dmg and 2.5k flat accuracy. I am not used to theocraftstuff, but for me it combines offense stats like dex(cold attackspeed crit) with deff options from the marauder area and jugger tree (life, endurance charges and fortify). Do you think this could be a build? Oh and queen of the forest will be happy about all the eva-boost from your dex. |
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I stayed up til 3 AM last night with an Aussie dude trying to parse out a Blade Flurry crit juggernaut using these items/ascendancy nodes.
We decided it didn't really do anything better than traditional builds with the various tree/weapon/skill permutations we tried. Curious to see where this goes and looking forward to the discussion to see if something shakes out. |
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" Mind if you post what you came up with? I got around 800k+ Shaper dps with no flasks with a T3 roll rare Gladius sword, pure res rings and only an Abyssus as the expensive item. While other builds can do this as well, it's a cool concept and super cheap. |
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Hey, wow. Lots of replies to catch up on. Right now I'm working on a much better first post since that's my current top priority before the patch hits. I should start addressing replies directly tonight or in the morning.
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" We were trying to build something strictly for Uber lab, but on a 6-link the BF damage got fairly high with a 280ish DPS phys foil and Scaeva off-hand with 3 Green sockets. Generally we tried to keep it very cheap and easy to get into lab early. https://pastebin.com/nChk14U2 Edit: I think one thing this could benefit from is Abyss jewels. And it might need to pick up more regeen/armour. But, has pretty good leech in this setup so maybe ok defenses? A bit unsure there. Here's a tankier version with still more than enough damage for Izaro. Way more than I had on my Jugg last league. https://pastebin.com/J6Ax5mkc Last edited by Jakle1111#7049 on Dec 7, 2017, 5:57:52 PM
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" Well, the easiest thing for you to do is to drop the foil and wear Scaeva main with a Death's Hand off. That'll give you tons more dps. Here is mine that is using Abyssus and Belly, but you can cheapen them up fairly easily (Abyssus is a huge damage gain) and still see good results over 300-400k. https://pastebin.com/zbLKwBdz |
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Interesting idea to get the permanent unholy might form Death's Hand!
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Having the same thought every league (Accurate Juggernaut using Undeniable's Ascendancy notable), i tried again with the new gloves.
Reaching 40K accuracy, i get similar DPS on a non-optimized Deadeye, while using Obscurantis, for the bow version. Deadeye obviously has more crit' chance. Seems to work better on a melee version using Abyssus actually, due to Juggernaut not having real issues wearing it, unlike other ascendancies. All in all, it seems to achieve the same goal as other ascendancies through different means, while not being particularly more effective at it, even with pretty heavy investment. At least, it's viable now. |
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Im waiting with this build for the perfect weapon.
Just a short list of funny mods that effect this build: shaped: - increased accuracy rating per frency charge (no big deal, but okay if it appears) elder: - X increased projectile attack damage per 200 accuracy rating - accuracy rating is doubled (LeL) - adds an additional arrow while main hand accuracy is at least X - accuracy support gem (for gloves only, so its useless) You can see there are some opie bow options. Because accuracy match with dexterity here are some dex interesting dex mods: shaped: - X increased dmg per 15 dex (could be more than 1!) - adds X cold dmg per to attacks with this weapon per 10 dex elder: - x% increased dex For special builds interesting: - chance to gain frency charge on CRIT (interesting for no terminus est flickerer) - 5% increased AOE per endurance charge (there are other deff boosts per ec, but i think we are looking for dmg options) (make reave GREAT again (dual wield and 10 charges is + 100% aoe)) And the thing is, some of these mods are complete underrated and so you can have some cheap items on trade. |
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