[3.1] BUDGET! Frostbreath + Ice Crash - 1 Million Shaper DPS

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Dongaldo wrote:

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l3sfin3st wrote:

This build is awesome. I'm currently leveling it and enjoying every moment. But question, what is the new chaos firestorm build you are playing? I've always wanted to play something similar. Do you have a guide for it?

You sneaky devil. No guide for it. Just an idea to make Volkuur's Guidance actually poison and do damage. Chose to do Wither, Cast While Channeling Firestorm. In theorycrafting I found that fire damage and it's associated ailment (burning) actually scale the poison from Valkuur's Guidance as if it's also burning damage. So anything that increases elemental damage, fire damage or burning damage also scales the poison, including Elemental Overload.

Here is the pastebin for it level 81 right now. https://pastebin.com/5U6PfL6s

Here is a brief Video on a T10 boss. https://youtu.be/lYBzDzTceJw

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Xavathos wrote:

Wideswing for Ice Crash. That's what I did. :)

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Dongaldo wrote:

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Child_Of_Hundreds wrote:

another thought, kaoms root would be quite good with this build,it wasnt socket starved anyway, tho you have to find that much resist. btw, your glove is not 10c now, not for a long while. but its actually ok, i find the difference with add cold on glove to be within 4%, not too much when you level up both hoi and add cold.

I keep of roots in my inventory. Swap into them for temp chains maps. Would love to work out a way to keep them on at all times.

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drbokorkati wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

Wideswing for Ice Crash. That's what I did. :)

Using the same frostbreath/gear/tree later for glacial right? (except the frenzy+the gems you mentioned)

Area of effect+area damage works with glacial also right?

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kompaniet wrote:

lvl 90. a lot of tweaking. still a work in progress but i'm getting closer.
all guardians go down rather smoothly. the hardest one is phoenix. for some reason there is some insane damage going on there without any damage mods (where is the balance here?) but it's alright with purity of fire aura + 2 fire flasks.

tried shaper once but i need to learn the mechanics better of that fight. i make stupid mistakes.
seems to be a dps race until the screen is filled with vortex ground. either that or one vortex is put in the middle inadvertendly exacly where zana will shield me from the bullet hell and then it's all over. so rng + dps race i guess.

my normal mapping setup. for minotaur i use 2 lightning flasks, for hydra 2 cold flasks and for phoenix 2 fire flasks instead of sulphur+atziri.

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Xavathos wrote:

@Dongaldo

How do you deal with reflect? I'm using Yugul and have the 10% reduced reflect damage taken on the tree, so I'm at -35% reflect damage taken, I also use Purity of Ice so I'm at 77 (atm it's not lvl 20 yet) cold res and I'm still one shotting myself on reflect.

My damage, being only lvl 70 right now, is nowhere near what it will be later on and I'm already at 4k life which will at best become 6k at 90+.

This has me slightly worried as you'd imagine...

Apart from that tiny detail, the build is working amazingly well. You really should try Glacial. Especially if you also have the Gore Herald mxt, it's a blast, hurr hurr. :3


I'm thinking about working in the elemental cluster at Scion/Witch part of the tree for another 10% reduced reflect, but it's a very inefficient cluster. I might also consider running a cold res flask, but the thing with those is, this is Harbinger league. The reflect mobs that I'm going to die to are the ones that spawn inside a Harbinger pack. There's no way I'm going to have enough time to respond or even see an ele reflect mob in that clusterfudgemuppet.

Just had another thought: I did die to reflect after I started using my 6L rare chest with Ruthless as the 6th link. Perhaps that's not the best of ideas, regardless of it being the "best DPS gem" in the 6th slot. The nature of Ruthless will mean it's 1/3 chance that the hit on a reflect mob will definitely kill me. Maybe that's why I'm having so much trouble and maybe faster attacks is a safer option. It's an 11% total damage loss compared to Ruthless, but a dead man deals no damage.

After doing some calculations with the following stats:

Reflect Aura: 14% (maps are 15% but I would never run those, only care about mobs)

Average hit damage: 200.000 pure cold
Cold resistance: 79% (75%)
Reduced Reflected Damage: 35%
Reflected damage: 3822 (4550)

Because of Ruthless, that 3822 was estimated to around 5800 damage reflected, which is why I died at 4k life. That's explained, so then lets see what happens if I add 10% more reduced reflect.

Average hit damage: 200.000 pure cold
Cold resistance: 79% (75%)
Reduced Reflected Damage: 45%
Reflected damage: 3234 (3850)

Note that these calculations are estimations based on rough numbers taken from my personal PoB sheets. They WILL vary for others!

In the above scenario, Purity of Ice provides roughly the same as 10% reduced reflected damage taken, on top of the obvious bonus of having 79% cold res against incoming regular damage.

The extra (inefficient) 10% reflect reduction cluster may not end up being worth it. But I'm seriously reconsidering Ruthless in my setup knowing how much impact it has on reflect. It's like playing Russian roulette at that point. Without VP, I'll still have to stop hitting ASAP if I see reflected damage coming in, as I won't heal fast enough to keep myself alive and most reflect rares will take more than a single hit to kill. While 5800 damage at 6k life might let me survive, realistically I won't as ANY hit from a mob would finish me off, or the second reflected attack if

Ugh, all in all reflect on this build is a serious pain in the bum to deal with. Do that though, and you've got a true gem on your hands.