[3.15] For Scion - Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam
" Bosses resists doesn't stop at 0 res u can make them have -xx resist and taking even more fire dmg then, thats why Fire Pen is great. @Ezevade You would need to invest in crit if u want go Acuity leech anyways. Scion seems like nice choice it seems now, still not sure if i should try to go for EO or RT gonna be just fine. Should start making my Scion soon. I prefer speed however so would drop one flask for quickislver for mapping, probably Lion's Roar since its annoyinh to push mobs away from molten bursts. btw. what u think about darkray vector's? we gain +2 frenzy and corrupted one shouldn't be that expensive Last edited by Hejti#4526 on Aug 30, 2017, 3:09:08 PM
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" I was absolutely considering buying those boots but i gotta figure out how to manage my resistances once i buy them. Just consider that every frenzy charge is ~40k dps increase in effective combat |
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NVM got it thanks @Enwood for the help!
Last edited by Dorrian#7399 on Aug 30, 2017, 6:58:10 PM
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Somewhat new to the POE scene and was hoping to try this out. I've seen some Marauder ngamahu's builds floating around that seem to really prioritize Kaom's heart. Is this a huge bonus for this build as well, and what are the benefits to rolling scion over marauder for a ngamahu's build?
Last edited by Essenix13#3242 on Aug 30, 2017, 6:53:43 PM
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" Scion entire power is flexibility with her ascendancy and positioning ability in the tree. Which isn't too pronounced in this build but you generally choose between 2 out theses 3 sub ascendancy. Elementalist (elemental peneration, extra golem, basically immune to relfect), Raider (move fast + boss killing with frezny charges), Champion (free tankiness) Berserker ascendancy overall is much easier to play though. ---- Also why is champion + raider preferred over Elementalist + raider. You get the extra pen, Golem and reflect immune which are huge qol or damage upgrades, on top of +40 int which is a massive help to the build. Only thing you have to do is upkeep fortify through ground slam instead of it being automatically. If we attached fortify to cyclone instead of another damage gem, it shouldn't be that much of a big damage loss since we use two attacks to kill monsters (the cyclone and molten burst, so only one of them loses a bit of damage). Which damage should be made up by the 6% pen + extra fire golem and easier jewel gearing with the +40 int. Last edited by RagnarokChu#4426 on Aug 30, 2017, 7:33:58 PM
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@RagnarokChu
Going Raider Ele we lose free Fortify and 30% more dmg while Fortify is active. Then we need to drop Added Fire for Fortify and its around 100k Cyclone DPS loss vs Shaper, there is no way that additional golem and 6%pen can make up for it. 40 INT shouldn't be that hard to get and Opal with INT aren't that expensive now since HoWA isn't played rly. Last edited by Hejti#4526 on Aug 30, 2017, 7:59:56 PM
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" I see that you have re-spec to the new changes. :) Check out the flask and recommended rares section. The flasks are important for your survival. _____________________________________________________________________________ " I like the rolls on Rune Hold better. You can reroll the lightning damage to fire or physical. _____________________________________________________________________________ @Hejtero and @Ezevade, nice exchange over there. :) I took @Kitaen's pastebin and with @Ezvade's pastebin, made some adjustment to compare their Shaper dps at level 100. Kitaen's Shaper Cyclone DPS: POB Pastebin " Ezevade's Shaper Cyclone DPS: POB Pastebin " Both pastebin have very similar life pool for a fairer comparison. However, Kitaen's skill tree have more damage nodes. EDIT: Updated Ezevade's pastebin data. Didn't realise the gems level are lower than Kitaen's pastebin. Fixed that. EDIT 2: Replaced Added Fire with Damage on Full life gem for Scion since Vaal Pact provide higher full life uptime. Last edited by kira1414#3753 on Aug 31, 2017, 1:09:52 AM
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How valuable is devo devoation helm if you're using the Bronn's Lithe chest (which lacks defensive stats, but gives you ton of attack speed/movement speed). If you don't need the dex then it might be overall in some offensive stats. Instead of 15% attack speed/20 Movement speed you might be able to wear:
Starkonja's Head: Trade in movement speed for 100 life Heretic's Veil: Can run a 2nd curse for even more damage/defensive (flame + ele weakness or defensive curse, or even more life leech with warlords) The Tempest's Binding Super support totem + some decent stats + harbringer buff Generic super tank helm + resist/other stats: This will deal with the lack of defensive stats on the chest, allowing you to easily get an enchant on the helm + fill in stats/resist you may need on other slots/jewels for easier gearing. For "budget" builds this is by far the best choice instead of devo + belly/carcass jack ect. Last edited by RagnarokChu#4426 on Aug 31, 2017, 2:44:20 AM
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Why do you take "Tireless" hp cluster between marauder and templar area?
It's just 4% hp per point (IMO reduced skills manacost is not an issue at all) We can grab some 5% hp nodes around the tree and have the same 20% overoll hp with one saved skillpoint Also there is some combined 4% hp + resist/armor and "Hired killer" hp cluster near scion area (4.66% hp per skillpoint) and "Thick skin" hp cluster near "Point blank" (4.5% hp per skillpoint) PS: Very cheap build with Hoph's blood makes me cry :( Last edited by listLogic#2684 on Aug 31, 2017, 3:27:45 AM
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" I found myself losing mana on longer fights like shaper faster than i was getting it back from leech. So while not an issue for mapping i cant imagine doing extremely tanky bosses without Tireless. You can absolutely clear most content without Xoph's. |
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