[3.9] Windz's Generic Miner Sabo (Arc/Pyroclast focused)

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Istvan_86 wrote:
Hello,

I was looking for a mine build with Icicle for clear and Pyroclast for bosses. This post seems to be that but anyone can provide a full PoB link?

The PoB provided by the OP it´s uncomplete. I´m very new to Saboteur and mines playstyle and need a bit of help.

Thanks in advance.



Here's my current PoB. https://pastebin.com/8DqJzJzW

5.6k life, 2.7k es. Tons of room for gear improvements.
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lazycalm2 wrote:
Hi,

Is this strong for HC?

Thanks


I'd say it's very HC viable. I'm nearly 97 and I'm running 8 mod T16s and I'm not even checking what mods they roll.
Would anyone be able to weigh in on how arc mines compares to icicle mine? I made the switch recently from ice spear mine to pyroclast mine for single target and am liking it, but still using 5L arc mine in a shroud of the lightless for clear dps.

Also, a 5L arc mine comes out at a higher average hit by about 12k in PoB compared to icicle mine, but is this directly comparable? I assume effective dps might be different given that icicle mine uses projectiles and chains?

Any opinions welcome! Gear:

Edit: made the switch to icicle mine and switched up some gear.

Last edited by Parhelius#1519 on Sep 24, 2019, 1:41:39 PM
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Parhelius wrote:
Would anyone be able to weigh in on how arc mines compares to icicle mine? I made the switch recently from ice spear mine to pyroclast mine for single target and am liking it, but still using 5L arc mine in a shroud of the lightless for clear dps.

Also, a 5L arc mine comes out at a higher average hit by about 12k in PoB compared to icicle mine, but is this directly comparable? I assume effective dps might be different given that icicle mine uses projectiles and chains?



I was running 5L icicle mine in T16s for quite a while until I got a shroud of the lightless. I feel like icicle with chain is superior for clearing than arc due to arc having poor distance between chains now, as well as icicle shattering everything it kills which is a huge safety net.

Mostly preference I think.
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Brasolis wrote:
Here's my current PoB. https://pastebin.com/8DqJzJzW

5.6k life, 2.7k es. Tons of room for gear improvements.


Hello again Brasolis, thanks for sharing your PoB, I´m trying to paste mine but PoB generate the link but don´t let me share with pastebin, so weird.

Basically my tree it´s the same (currently lvl 92) but with the only modification that in the gem slot between Melding and Overcharged I´m using an Intuitive Leap at least for the moment, I think that it´s a great addition.

My stats are 5105 HP + 2479 ES but they change a bit, I´m testing some configurations.

Also I consider the option of make a tiny respec and take Acrobatics + Phase Acrobatics and some of the nearly nodes, like Herbalism and Hearthseeker beacause I´m feel a bit squishy. What do you think? I also feel squishy because I need to improve my playstyle with miner.

Thanks in advance.
kek?
Last edited by Istvan_86#0946 on Sep 25, 2019, 11:11:56 AM
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Istvan_86 wrote:

Hello again Brasolis, thanks for sharing your PoB, I´m trying to paste mine but PoB generate the link but don´t let me share with pastebin, so weird.

Basically my tree it´s the same (currently lvl 92) but with the only modification that in the gem slot between Melding and Overcharged I´m using an Intuitive Leap at least for the moment, I think that it´s a great addition.

My stats are 5105 HP + 2479 ES but they change a bit, I´m testing some configurations.

Also I consider the option of make a tiny respec and take Acrobatics + Phase Acrobatics and some of the nearly nodes, like Herbalism and Hearthseeker beacause I´m feel a bit squishy. What do you think? I also feel squishy because I need to improve my playstyle with miner.

Thanks in advance.


Hey. I'm not sure what you are getting out of intuitive leap between Melding and Overcharged. We can't take Overcharged since the on-kill effects don't work with mines, and I'm already taking the full Melding wheel. Seems like you give up a jewel slot for just Dreamer which seems extremely wasteful.

Also not a fan of acro/phase acro since you lose 30% ES which is a decent chunk, and it's 7 points to get to phase acro which is just too costly in my opinion. If I was playing deadeye I would most likely take it.

I think it's mostly preference though, if you were willing to drop some life/es% off the tree then it's an option. I would most likely drop es nodes, swap to full evasion gear and try and get more life.
What would be the best gem setup in shroud of the lightless if I would opt to go with Ball Lightning instead of Icicle?
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Starrod wrote:
What would be the best gem setup in shroud of the lightless if I would opt to go with Ball Lightning instead of Icicle?


https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?class=Saboteur&item=Shroud-of-the-Lightless&skill=Ball-Lightning

According to poe ninja, trap and mine damage, blastchain, swift assembly, slower projectiles (very small sample size though).
Last edited by Parhelius#1519 on Sep 26, 2019, 8:53:12 AM
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Brasolis wrote:
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Parhelius wrote:
Would anyone be able to weigh in on how arc mines compares to icicle mine? I made the switch recently from ice spear mine to pyroclast mine for single target and am liking it, but still using 5L arc mine in a shroud of the lightless for clear dps.

Also, a 5L arc mine comes out at a higher average hit by about 12k in PoB compared to icicle mine, but is this directly comparable? I assume effective dps might be different given that icicle mine uses projectiles and chains?



I was running 5L icicle mine in T16s for quite a while until I got a shroud of the lightless. I feel like icicle with chain is superior for clearing than arc due to arc having poor distance between chains now, as well as icicle shattering everything it kills which is a huge safety net.

Mostly preference I think.


Thanks. I just made the switch from chain to pierce and from inc crit strikes to charged mines, and it feels a lot smoother for clearing. Not sure what the overall dps difference is but the increased throwing speed is very nice.
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Brasolis wrote:
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Istvan_86 wrote:

Hello again Brasolis, thanks for sharing your PoB, I´m trying to paste mine but PoB generate the link but don´t let me share with pastebin, so weird.

Basically my tree it´s the same (currently lvl 92) but with the only modification that in the gem slot between Melding and Overcharged I´m using an Intuitive Leap at least for the moment, I think that it´s a great addition.

My stats are 5105 HP + 2479 ES but they change a bit, I´m testing some configurations.

Also I consider the option of make a tiny respec and take Acrobatics + Phase Acrobatics and some of the nearly nodes, like Herbalism and Hearthseeker beacause I´m feel a bit squishy. What do you think? I also feel squishy because I need to improve my playstyle with miner.

Thanks in advance.


Hey. I'm not sure what you are getting out of intuitive leap between Melding and Overcharged. We can't take Overcharged since the on-kill effects don't work with mines, and I'm already taking the full Melding wheel. Seems like you give up a jewel slot for just Dreamer which seems extremely wasteful.

Also not a fan of acro/phase acro since you lose 30% ES which is a decent chunk, and it's 7 points to get to phase acro which is just too costly in my opinion. If I was playing deadeye I would most likely take it.

I think it's mostly preference though, if you were willing to drop some life/es% off the tree then it's an option. I would most likely drop es nodes, swap to full evasion gear and try and get more life.


Hello again Brasolis,

You are totally right about Intuitive Leap, how can I make this mistake??? I´m taking full Melding wheel right now and removing Overcharged + Intuitive Leap.

These days I´m trying a lot of combinations of gear/tree/gems and I must admit that in that case I also don´t like acro + phase and I´m comign back to the standrd tree of the build.

I have a gear very close to yours in stats with the only exception is that my staff is 5L but I have problems with survivability in high tier maps and blighted maps, again I think that it´s the problem of my skill as miner player. When I finish my work day I give a try to the build again.

Also in the PoB that you provided, help Alira it´s selected, is that right? Or you take the 2 skill points.

Thanks for all your help and time.
kek?
Last edited by Istvan_86#0946 on Sep 26, 2019, 12:54:52 PM

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