Harbinger language/symbol translation

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DemonikPath wrote:
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Here's Harbinger boss if you still need:

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Notice how symbol from Harbinger leader:



looks similar (yet slightly different) to symbol on map:


"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
The symbol for the harbinger leader looks like an arrow pointing to the largest of three squares. I would say it is a fairly straightforward pictogram that simply means 'leader'.

We might be able to clarify the meaning of some of the connecting symbols by studying the whole phrase.
Last edited by locobilbo#5689 on Aug 28, 2017, 11:56:55 AM
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The symbol of the God of Domination, whom the Harbingers seem to have some connection with.

Spirals can often be found on the land and creatures the Beast influences. Because of this, the Harbinger glyphs represent The Beast as a spiral.
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I don't know how to quote the recent announcement, but bex said the unique items have to be arranged in a particular order in order to translate their flavour text. Immediately below that paragraph is a list of harbinger symbols that correspond to each of the harbingers summoned by the unique items. Is it too obvious that the order of the symbols is the correct order in which the items have to be arranged?

So the order would be:

belt
mask
quiver
shield
staff
sword
Last edited by locobilbo#5689 on Aug 28, 2017, 11:47:09 PM
Ok here is my attempted translation of the history of the Harbingers. Each line corresponds to a line of flavour text on the unique items in the order described in my above post:

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The skill of God grew in maps
The skill of God grew in time
The faithful of God were strengthened by His skill

The Beast enclosed time
God became weak and fled
The faithful of God lost their connection to Him
The faithful of God were scattered by their hidden Lord

God increased in strength
But God was disconnected from time
The faithful of God also grew in strength

The Beast was at a vulnerable time
The angry God struggled in exile
God found a way to mend His connection

The angry God in exile
The hidden God expanded his influence
The exiled God became renewed
The hidden God grew in influence among His hidden faithful

God's faithful grew in strength
God's faithful grew in skill
God's faithful focused on (something)
The faithful focused on Wraeclast


It is not particularly poetic but I think I have the gist of the meaning. Many symbols which I have translated, including those for skill, strength and power are by no means correct, but probably at least convey the same feeling.
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You're right about the order of the items Locobilbo. Though I am not entirely sure about the meaning of that symbol "skill". It could be it, though I have doubt.

Didn't expect that spiral symbol stands for "Beast". Bex wrote: "Spirals can often be found on the land and creatures the Beast influences", but I cant remember seeing it anywhere outside of "Beachhead" map. Probably wasn't paying enough attention :)
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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Toshis8 wrote:
You're right about the order of the items Locobilbo. Though I am not entirely sure about the meaning of that symbol "skill". It could be it, though I have doubt.

Didn't expect that spiral symbol stands for "Beast". Bex wrote: "Spirals can often be found on the land and creatures the Beast influences", but I cant remember seeing it anywhere outside of "Beachhead" map. Probably wasn't paying enough attention :)


Spirals were added in 3.0 (even in beta). They are near almost every boss from A1 to A4 and also some map bosses. I remember wondering what do these spirals mean, but never found out. I guess they mean strong beast influence or something like that.
Last edited by DemonikPath#1311 on Aug 29, 2017, 2:23:11 AM
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Toshis8 wrote:
You're right about the order of the items Locobilbo. Though I am not entirely sure about the meaning of that symbol "skill". It could be it, though I have doubt.


Yeah I originally thought that symbol meant skill because it appeared on the sword next to the symbol for 'expansion'. I previously interpreted that line as 'increased area of effect for skills' due the the similar mod on the weapon. Since I have dumped that translation it doesn't make sense to use it in my new translation, I know. However, I still do have a feeling that it looks like a pictogram of a socketed skill gem. It may be something to do with virtue gems, since they appear heavily in the lore?

Once it was revealed that the spiral meant 'beast' I think that gave away a lot of the meaning behind the flavour text, since it is likely that the God of the Harbingers has suffered the same fate as the gods of Wraeclast at the hands of the beast.
Last edited by locobilbo#5689 on Aug 29, 2017, 3:50:24 AM
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locobilbo wrote:
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Toshis8 wrote:
You're right about the order of the items Locobilbo. Though I am not entirely sure about the meaning of that symbol "skill". It could be it, though I have doubt.


Yeah I originally thought that symbol meant skill because it appeared on the sword next to the symbol for 'expansion'. I previously interpreted that line as 'increased area of effect for skills' due the the similar mod on the weapon. Since I have dumped that translation it doesn't make sense to use it in my new translation, I know. However, I still do have a feeling that it looks like a pictogram of a socketed skill gem. It may be something to do with virtue gems, since they appear heavily in the lore?

Once it was revealed that the spiral meant 'beast' I think that gave away a lot of the meaning behind the flavour text, since it is likely that the God of the Harbingers has suffered the same fate as the gods of Wraeclast at the hands of the beast.


Your explanation is logical and can be true, its just that uncertainty that bothers my mind. Like with that "beast" symbol. Was pretty sure it meant "Portal" by clues and its graphical look yet I was wrong.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

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